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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Direct link to download the ISO image Hyperbola]]></title>
			<link>https://forums.hyperbola.info/viewtopic.php?pid=8060#p8060</link>
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			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (throgh)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Wed, 29 May 2024 00:20:57 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Direct link to download the ISO image Hyperbola]]></title>
			<link>https://forums.hyperbola.info/viewtopic.php?pid=8059#p8059</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>I mostly like using a torrent to download and seed free software distro things and some other free-culture things, like most of Wikipedia, as that can help reduce server load, I think.</p><p>But I also see a direct download may help if you do not know where to get a torrent program. Or can not install a torrent program.</p><p>I think a torrent may also be the fastest way to download a file, as long as many people are &quot;seeding&quot; a torrent.</p><p>Maybe there could somehow be &quot;spoofing of source addresses&quot; with some torrent programs, but someone also could fake a download site or mirror to show a fake image.</p><p>And if a direct download site goes offline than you may not be able to get the image, but with a torrent maybe it is like having many sites or mirrors to get an image, or at least it&#039;s parts, from.</p><p>Like gnewsense-live-4.0-amd64-gnome.iso and gnewsense-live-4.0-i386-gnome.iso may still be shared with torrent files, even though it was removed April 2021 from <a href="https://www.gnu.org/distros/free-distros.html.">https://www.gnu.org/distros/free-distros.html.</a></p><p>I do not know about the source though. I think I found those torrent files from archive.org as that site and it&#039;s torrent files was, at least partly, saved.</p><p>If people can not get to Hyperbola&#039;s website, but still have the torrent files, those people can still get the Hyperbola iso image.</p><p>I do not know much about how a torrent program works, but I like to use a program called &quot;Transmission-gtk&quot; I think, to download and seed torrents, like Trisquel and Hyperbola.</p><p><a href="https://www.hyperbola.info/packages/?sort=&amp;q=transmission">https://www.hyperbola.info/packages/?so … ansmission</a></p><p>As for malware, I think those types of torrents may be from websites that may not be sending free as in freedom software, though I do not know what people are downloading to also get malware.</p><p>The only other thing I can think of at this time about using a direct download instead of a torrent is that maybe peers could see your IP address like a website can, or &quot;nodes&quot; in-between where your computer is and where you are downloading from, but there may be ways to make that not as known like using some proxy.</p><p>Although an ISP can likely still know your IP address.</p><p>But I&#039;m glad there are many ways to download files, to give users a choice, like how there is a browser to get files or the program &quot;git&quot; to clone a repository or the program &quot;wget&quot; to download a &quot;zipped&quot; or &quot;tarball&quot; or other file directly.</p><p>I see the Hyperbola blacklist shows &quot;forces download a lot of git repositories to build it&quot; and &quot;does not download sources over https and does not use SHA-512 hash&quot; in some of the things listed in the blacklist.</p><p>So whether this is because there are many build dependencies or because that could try to force the latest version &quot;uses the unstable version (fresh)&quot; checking checksums and signatures can also help to make sure you downloaded the correct file. That way you can check what version you are downloading.</p><p>And like direct download sites may go offline, git repositories could also go offline. But the &quot;Sneakernet&quot; and torrents may stay up.</p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sneakernet">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sneakernet</a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BitTorrent">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BitTorrent</a></p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (Other_Cody)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Tue, 28 May 2024 23:26:42 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Direct link to download the ISO image Hyperbola]]></title>
			<link>https://forums.hyperbola.info/viewtopic.php?pid=8058#p8058</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>I can say that I also understand you: A direct download is your preferred way for sure. But it demonstrates also that GNU/Linux is very fragmented and one goal of Hyperbola is getting loose ties more connected. So an operating-system:</p><p>- which is in the hands of users<br />- which offers packages basic but reliable with not so big ABI-changes<br />- which is always free and offering a full control</p><p>I know that the way towards this is not easy and combined with many issues. But so far Hyperbola GNU/Linux-libre 0.4.x is on a very good way and when more mirrors would be available or also mirroring the corresponding folder it would be more easy for us to link it direct.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (throgh)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Tue, 28 May 2024 20:54:09 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Direct link to download the ISO image Hyperbola]]></title>
			<link>https://forums.hyperbola.info/viewtopic.php?pid=8057#p8057</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>I meant this place =&gt; Download =&gt; <a href="https://wiki.hyperbola.info/doku.php?id=en:project:downloads">https://wiki.hyperbola.info/doku.php?id … :downloads</a></p><p>I understand that I can use a mirror, but when I looked for the direct link in the Download section I could not find it right away. But I understood what you wanted to say.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (jim)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Tue, 28 May 2024 20:29:09 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Direct link to download the ISO image Hyperbola]]></title>
			<link>https://forums.hyperbola.info/viewtopic.php?pid=8056#p8056</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Please either bring clear facts why you argument that way or stop using then false claims (statement: &quot;Torrents dangerous&quot;). Besides we do not indicate one single source. This was already explained and is now done another time here again, jim. We won&#039;t indicate one source / mirror therefore to download the ISO. I hope you understand how this works and make then the project relying onto one single source and why this is wrong.</p><p>We are also NOT part of the FSF. They are free to mirror and as Hyperbola is FSDG-compliant they do. But we won&#039;t recommend only one special mirror. Also here: Stop promoting such false arguments.</p><p>All mirrors are free to select either the package-repositories and inbound sources or more data.<br />You can find the ISO-files therefore:</p><p><a href="https://mirror.cedia.org.ec/hyperbola/sources/other/live_images/gnu-plus-linux-libre/">https://mirror.cedia.org.ec/hyperbola/s … nux-libre/</a><br /><a href="https://mirror.fsf.org/hyperbola/sources/other/live_images/gnu-plus-linux-libre/">https://mirror.fsf.org/hyperbola/source … nux-libre/</a><br /><a href="https://repo.hyperbola.info:50000/other/live_images/gnu-plus-linux-libre/">https://repo.hyperbola.info:50000/other … nux-libre/</a></p><p>If you think there is need for more mirrors: Please write the corresponding hosters in person or initialize an own one with the corresponding selection.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (throgh)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Tue, 28 May 2024 12:47:21 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Hello . Last time you wrote that there is no direct link for downloading the ISO here on the site. As I understand it, the problem is the load on your server.</p><p>Why didn&#039;t you indicate this source ==&gt;&nbsp; mirror.fsf.org&nbsp; &nbsp;&lt;==== ?&nbsp; Here you can use any libre dsitro without any problems via a direct link, I don’t use DANGEROUS options such as torrent.</p><p>EDIT (throgh): Stop promoting one source. It is your choice but not the one of the project. Therefore link deleted. Please look into next reply.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 28 May 2024 11:03:40 +0000</pubDate>
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