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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Delete Github]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Think so, but <strong>NotABug</strong> has created an <a href="https://notabug.org/hp/gogs/">own version</a> of Gogs from what I&#039;ve seen.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[throgh]]></name>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Delete Github]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>throgh wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Yes, I know this phrase is not very creative and is also used very often. But nevertheless it tells the truth, even though it is a shortened phrase. <strong>Github</strong> was bought by <strong>Microsoft</strong> in 2018. Even before there were many thoughts about another centralized service being in usage from enough people and projects being engaged in the context of free software.</p><p>Which means: A company with a catalogue consisting just out of proprietary products and services has even access to the most crucial part of free software, the source-code itself. And even though many projects doesn&#039;t even share those concerns: <strong>ScummVM</strong> and <strong>Audacity</strong> are just some examples. What about free services? And by the wording &quot;free&quot; I don&#039;t think of &quot;free accounts&quot; with the option to pay money for having exclusive features, I&#039;m thinking of services hosted by a community itself for having access to the code of free software without those tactics and payoffs on <strong>Github</strong>. Some examples:</p><ul><li><p><a href="https://notabug.org/">NotABug.org</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://libregit.org/">LibreGit</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://codeberg.org/">Codeberg</a></p></li></ul><p>Or even better: Every project could host their own repository and service. Many have an own website with services included, so where is the pain?<br />Stop playing literally &quot;bullshit&quot; with using those centralized services as &quot;we&quot; (the complete community being in use of &quot;free software&quot;) just loosing in the end when trusting them. Or should we wait until <strong>Microsoft</strong> with its subsidiary <strong>Github</strong> play really bad? Remember: We are talking about <strong>Microsoft</strong> and they just play another round of <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embrace,_extend,_and_extinguish"><strong>Embrace, extend, and extinguish</strong></a>. The question is: When do &quot;we&quot; recognize this? And please: <strong>Gitlab</strong> is not really another option, that&#039;s just another centralized service and the software-package for an individual installation was removed with a concrete reason from the repositories of Hyperbola using node.js as dependency - another topic regarding <em>not every software being released under free licensing is already good for privacy</em>. Free for discussion, free for thoughts as there are already good projects for own hosting out there.</p></blockquote></div><p>What about Gogs? Is that any good? Librecmc uses that.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[zapper]]></name>
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			<updated>2019-12-13T21:15:37Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Delete Github]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Yes, I know this phrase is not very creative and is also used very often. But nevertheless it tells the truth, even though it is a shortened phrase. <strong>Github</strong> was bought by <strong>Microsoft</strong> in 2018. Even before there were many thoughts about another centralized service being in usage from enough people and projects being engaged in the context of free software.</p><p>Which means: A company with a catalogue consisting just out of proprietary products and services has even access to the most crucial part of free software, the source-code itself. And even though many projects doesn&#039;t even share those concerns: <strong>ScummVM</strong> and <strong>Audacity</strong> are just some examples. What about free services? And by the wording &quot;free&quot; I don&#039;t think of &quot;free accounts&quot; with the option to pay money for having exclusive features, I&#039;m thinking of services hosted by a community itself for having access to the code of free software without those tactics and payoffs on <strong>Github</strong>. Some examples:</p><ul><li><p><a href="https://notabug.org/">NotABug.org</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://libregit.org/">LibreGit</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://codeberg.org/">Codeberg</a></p></li></ul><p>Or even better: Every project could host their own repository and service. Many have an own website with services included, so where is the pain?<br />Stop playing literally &quot;bullshit&quot; with using those centralized services as &quot;we&quot; (the complete community being in use of &quot;free software&quot;) just loosing in the end when trusting them. Or should we wait until <strong>Microsoft</strong> with its subsidiary <strong>Github</strong> play really bad? Remember: We are talking about <strong>Microsoft</strong> and they just play another round of <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embrace,_extend,_and_extinguish"><strong>Embrace, extend, and extinguish</strong></a>. The question is: When do &quot;we&quot; recognize this? And please: <strong>Gitlab</strong> is not really another option, that&#039;s just another centralized service and the software-package for an individual installation was removed with a concrete reason from the repositories of Hyperbola using node.js as dependency - another topic regarding <em>not every software being released under free licensing is already good for privacy</em>. Free for discussion, free for thoughts as there are already good projects for own hosting out there.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[throgh]]></name>
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			<updated>2019-12-11T18:50:55Z</updated>
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