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Re: installing hyperbola on my new x200

2020-02-06T14:04:52Z

Hmm, there should be no further need to do that because the package itself does this: https://git.hyperbola.info:50100/packag … xy.install

Re: installing hyperbola on my new x200

2020-02-06T13:30:06Z

throgh wrote:

My guess - have to try it myself later: Just by uncommenting the corresponding files as the PKGBUILD and the built package also creates the user-profile with the corresponding group. So the daemon should be running from this profile when added and started! The file dnscrypt-proxy should be in etc/conf.d/.

maybe i should do that i mean create the user-profile cause i didn't!

Re: installing hyperbola on my new x200

2020-02-06T13:04:26Z

rached wrote:

thanks for the feed back im planing to make a fresh install of hyperbola after fixing the issues
i checked the file under /etc/conf.d/ its the same as https://git.hyperbola.info:50100/packag … roxy.confd
how do i activate the user-profile for running the daemon?
and does dns-crypt start from my user or from root by openrc!

My guess - have to try it myself later: Just by uncommenting the corresponding files as the PKGBUILD and the built package also creates the user-profile with the corresponding group. So the daemon should be running from this profile when added and started! The file dnscrypt-proxy should be in etc/conf.d/.

Re: installing hyperbola on my new x200

2020-02-06T12:29:15Z

thanks for the feed back im planing to make a fresh install of hyperbola after fixing the issues
i checked the file under /etc/conf.d/ its the same as https://git.hyperbola.info:50100/packag … roxy.confd
how do i activate the user-profile for running the daemon?
and does dns-crypt start from my user or from root by openrc!

Re: installing hyperbola on my new x200

2020-02-05T19:23:09Z

rached wrote:

well i removed what was not needed but i found that cwm can start with xenocara-font-bitstream-75dpi or xenocara-font-bitstream-100dpi
i dont know wich one should i keep removing both stops cwm keeping one make it work but what are they for and wich one is the best?
so for now 2 issues remain the files permissions and dnscrypt-proxy!

Okay let's start with dnscrypt-proxy, because this issue seems more serious for now from my point of view. Also noting: Packages with different permissions need definitely a rebuilt and this is better done later on.

When having issues with OpenRC-scripts I take a look at Alpine Linux because they are also using OpenRC and have many good notes about the INIT-framework besides Gentoo itself. So when looking for dnscrypt-proxy I don't notice any further differences besides the folder for installation. Looking for the PKGBUILD at Hyperbola: https://git.hyperbola.info:50100/packag … y/PKGBUILD

This is under /usr/sbin/ so my first ideas would be:

checking the privileges and groups of your user
checking for the conf.d-file and activate the user-profile for running the daemon perhaps (https://git.hyperbola.info:50100/packag … roxy.confd), you can find the file under /etc/conf.d/

rached wrote:

offtopic note!
why there is only you throgh who is trying to help and only few people active in this community this is verry bad, compared to other distributions this project roadmap is the best in the libre softhware in my point of view.
i hope more people join to contribute and help in this freedom fight!

Well, the community is very small for now. This has some advantages because we have a friendly zone here ... and yes, also disadvantages because the forum is quiet. But I think the same about Hyperbola: This distribution and the planning is very strict bound to principles regarding freedom and libre software without making compromises. We need this and therefore also need progress within GNU/Linux-libre until BSD is ready. Upcoming problem is there again the size and people unwilling to recognize the strict principles because even OpenBSD accepts bloated software and problematic packages like "Chromium".

Re: installing hyperbola on my new x200

2020-02-05T18:46:04Z

offtopic note!

why there is only you throgh who is trying to help and only few people active in this community this is verry bad, compared to other distributions this project roadmap is the best in the libre softhware in my point of view.
i hope more people join to contribute and help in this freedom fight!

Re: installing hyperbola on my new x200

2020-02-05T13:45:15Z

well i removed what was not needed but i found that cwm can start with xenocara-font-bitstream-75dpi or xenocara-font-bitstream-100dpi
i dont know wich one should i keep removing both stops cwm keeping one make it work but what are they for and wich one is the best?

so for now 2 issues remain the files permissions and dnscrypt-proxy!

Re: installing hyperbola on my new x200

2020-02-04T20:59:14Z

Thanks for the feedback: Cool solution with net-tools and good one for others with same problems so needed packages for different usecases are more clear.

Re: installing hyperbola on my new x200

2020-02-04T18:06:01Z

i think removing parts of the xenocara meta-packages and testing is better for a noob like me
i also fixed the loopback not starting by installing net-tools cause i found ifconfig missing.

i will probably come back tomorrow for dnscrypt-proxy. thank you for your help so far!

Re: installing hyperbola on my new x200

2020-02-04T17:19:35Z

Okay, now having cwm running you can try removing parts of that meta-package called xenocara one by one. I know this is not the best way but other way would be looking into the callstack of the X-server when trying to run and looking for error-messages (using the logging-file under /var/log/ for Xorg). I think you could also have a look onto the concurrent modules being loaded: sudo modprobe loop

After having those points cleared up we can have a closer look onto dnscrypt-proxy. Doing this together!

Re: installing hyperbola on my new x200

2020-02-04T14:20:37Z

it did work installing all what comes with xenocara runs cwm but like you said this break the minimalistic approach that i was trying to go for
still have dnscrypt-proxy not starting
and the loopback is also not starting i think after deleting netifrc caused that ifconfig is missing
wich means net-tools right?

Re: installing hyperbola on my new x200

2020-02-04T12:31:02Z

I love to help because Hyperbola has such a nice, little community with outstanding people helping each other.
Let's learn together so you can create a nice, minimalistic installation at all - that's also a major goal as I even see bloated packages back in the BSD-world and the idea behind HyperbolaBSD is even more great under this perspective.

you could tryout a fresh installation, but before it would be interesting just to use xenocara or xorg as complete installation. What happens? Can you run cwm after that?

I think pacstrap /mnt and pacstrap /mnt base is more or less the same. But with the usage of base-devel you've got already everything else for building your own packages later on.

Re: installing hyperbola on my new x200

2020-02-04T11:55:43Z

so whats the diffrence betwin pacstrap /mnt and pacstrap /mnt base

Re: installing hyperbola on my new x200

2020-02-04T11:54:08Z

yeah i know your trying OpenBSD helping me is already great i also dont need to finish this installation fast im learning from it so take your time.
questions i have for now: should i go with a new fresh installation?
and will pacstrap /mnt alone install more packages or passing base will do that?

Re: installing hyperbola on my new x200

2020-02-03T20:27:27Z

Well, different permissions can be an issue, but I have doubts about that for now - should do another testing round when finished with first tryouts on OpenBSD. But coming up to explanations about meta-packages: That's a group of complete packages to be installed. You can use therefore xenocara or xorg for the further trying. Yes, there are some packages also being installed breaking the minimalistic approach. But you could remove them afterwards.

Regarding pacstrap a recommendation: I'm using for my installation ...

pacstrap /mnt base base-devel wpa_supplicant grub

From the installation-guide:

You can install additional packages passing base and the names of these packages as arguments after the root directory of the new installation (all packages from the base group are installed if no package is specified).

Same principle with the names mentioned: base is for example a meta-package including the absolute needed packages for the installation.