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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>zapper wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I can recommend one other option, half the security, but way easier to do.&nbsp; Disroot email. </p><p>If you can sign up again that is, I haven&#039;t checked yet. </p><p>Although, its all up to you if you want to...</p></blockquote></div><p>Closed up so far, but I think it would be helpful getting possible management-interfaces within a list. The more e-mail is getting back out of some centralized services, the better. <img src="https://forums.hyperbola.info/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[throgh]]></name>
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			<updated>2020-12-28T12:36:48Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I can recommend one other option, half the security, but way easier to do.&nbsp; Disroot email. </p><p>If you can sign up again that is, I haven&#039;t checked yet. </p><p>Although, its all up to you if you want to...</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2020-12-28T00:10:15Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>sagaracharya wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Sorry. I&#039;m all over the place wrt contexts. opensmtpd is just mta, not a complete package. I presume by interface and management-console, you mean something like roundcube. I&#039;ve not explored one that is compatible with opensmtpd since I just require sending mail through commands. People have configured roundcube with opensmtpd.</p></blockquote></div><p>Yes, I&#039;ve thought about some web-interface for the management of the server and the e-mails. Looking around also! <img src="https://forums.hyperbola.info/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2020-12-27T13:04:13Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Sorry. I&#039;m all over the place wrt contexts. opensmtpd is just mta, not a complete package. I presume by interface and management-console, you mean something like roundcube. I&#039;ve not explored one that is compatible with opensmtpd since I just require sending mail through commands. People have configured roundcube with opensmtpd.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2020-12-27T12:38:48Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>For the package itself: Correct. But do you have also an interface or (web)management-console for opensmtpd? I&#039;ve searched and found nothing the last time. Well yes: This is some time ago.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2020-12-27T11:38:37Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>OpenSMTPD is a 1000 times better than exim and postfix. I highly recommend it. I solved the server setup part and the config files are exactly like I would have imagined. Extremely simple!</p><p><a href="https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/OpenSMTPD">https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/OpenSMTPD</a></p><p>is extremely helpful.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2020-12-27T06:05:46Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Good points: Especially having an interface to manage the components of a mail-server is not so easy as there are not so much projects with this focus. The ones I&#039;ve found so far are listed in this thread and they can be a good help being modified - especially made secure without third party access to some resources outside.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2020-12-26T11:25:51Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>throgh wrote:</cite><blockquote><p> Mailserver can be really complicated. So dividing the complex issues one by one! <img src="https://forums.hyperbola.info/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p></blockquote></div><p>I recommended making a mailserver from scratch. It should essentially add the component of domain confirmation to XMPP messaging:<br />So there&#039;s:<br />1. User password authentication with frontend<br />2. Domain name belongs to host authentication<br />3. Fetching messages (decoding and encoding in smtp, imap, pop3 formats)<br />4. Storing at appropriate locations.<br />5. Sanitizing malicious mail. (Guess one can use spamassasin here)<br />6.. (Optional) For too many users (big services), additional step of finding user exists on which server (say with multiple hosts).</p><p>The above steps are for complete mail (not just MTA or MUA or whatever). I don&#039;t see how such a complete service can be as complex as we have now. Maybe because email services are the oldest, they&#039;re still using C and are being coded in a very complex way.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2020-12-24T17:07:06Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Therefore mailcow as example: The project itself is functional out of the box and you can build on top of the configuration-files, trying out more. For the start this is an interesting way to solve common issues. Of course: You should use your own configuration and build as you want. But mailserver can be really complicated. So dividing the complex issues one by one! <img src="https://forums.hyperbola.info/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2020-12-23T11:14:51Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Yes saw those. I tried to make Exim work. Later I tried postfix. There is too much configuration that needs to be understood. They should divide config files into necessary, secondary, tertiary and so on. It&#039;s super complex.</p><p>Yes, that line. I&#039;m not buliding a mail server. I misinterpreted things on this post. I&#039;m just using one. After trying configuring one, I must say there&#039;s tremendous scope on user experience side. A lot can be simplified!</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2020-12-23T06:39:14Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>sagaracharya wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I don&#039;t know what an SIP server is. I want to set-up a send-only mail server. I find stuff for postfix. iredmail as you said looks excellent but there&#039;s no support (easy setup tutorial) for send-only system.</p><p>Andre has flagged postfix in blacklist git!</p></blockquote></div><p>You mean this line here?</p><div class="codebox"><pre><code>postfix:postfix:::[uses-nonsecurity] depends on openssl, [technical] Arch version is adapted to systemd, does not download sources over https and does not use SHA-512 hash</code></pre></div><p>As far as I see there will be another package build against <strong>libressl</strong> so I think postfix will be also part of the future releases. Building a mail-server is not always the easiest one, perhaps this could help - little bit older: <a href="https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-install-and-configure-postfix-as-a-send-only-smtp-server-on-ubuntu-16-04">https://www.digitalocean.com/community/ … untu-16-04</a></p><p>Well, this is for Ubuntu, but most options could be used also on other distributions.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2020-12-22T23:36:38Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I don&#039;t know what an SIP server is. I want to set-up a send-only mail server. I find stuff for postfix. iredmail as you said looks excellent but there&#039;s no support (easy setup tutorial) for send-only system.</p><p>Andre has flagged postfix in blacklist git!</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2020-12-22T12:20:56Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>sagaracharya wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>For smtp, I had to use gmail. Google changes the settings of my account internally to supposedly &quot;protect me&quot; and the smtplib with python can&#039;t login. I can&#039;t even imagine for how many months Google has prevented users from creating an account on my site!</p><p>I want to setup my own mail server ASAP. Why do you recommend mailcow @throgh? What&#039;s the problem with kamailio and postfix? I&#039;m leaning towards kamailio.</p></blockquote></div><p>No real problem. It is just not a recommendation as the project mailcow is using components and projects like <strong>dovecot</strong>, <strong>postfix</strong> and more. Also no problem with kamailio, but isn&#039;t this a SIP-server itself?</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2020-12-22T10:39:00Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>For smtp, I had to use gmail. Google changes the settings of my account internally to supposedly &quot;protect me&quot; and the smtplib with python can&#039;t login. I can&#039;t even imagine for how many months Google has prevented users from creating an account on my site!</p><p>I want to setup my own mail server ASAP. Why do you recommend mailcow @throgh? What&#039;s the problem with kamailio and postfix? I&#039;m leaning towards kamailio.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2020-12-22T05:46:04Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Another link, especially focussed on OpenRC: <a href="https://wiki.alpinelinux.org/wiki/ISP_Mail_Server_3.x_HowTo">https://wiki.alpinelinux.org/wiki/ISP_M … _3.x_HowTo</a><br />And here: <a href="https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-setup-exim-spamassassin-clamd-and-dovecot-on-an-arch-linux-vps">https://www.digitalocean.com/community/ … -linux-vps</a></p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2020-04-16T09:31:17Z</updated>
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