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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: List of desktop software for Milky Way v0.4 and HyperbolaBSD]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Unpinned thread and closed: We have added as much as possible. But <strong>greetd</strong> is using Rust and therefore not possible also with gtkgreet. We had also for a time <strong>wdm</strong> included but found no further maintainer supporting the development. As said: All possible done.</p><p>Please do not await others doing the work you can manage also on your own. Referring to the ground points of Hyperbola: <a href="https://wiki.hyperbola.info/doku.php?id=en:philosophy:stable_system#the_essentials_of_hyperbola_s_philosophy">https://wiki.hyperbola.info/doku.php?id … philosophy</a><br />So if people await here to have someone else doing an inclusion and configuration of other window-managers or something, refer to <strong>DIY</strong>. Hyperbola is offering a fine working base for many things. <img src="https://forums.hyperbola.info/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[throgh]]></name>
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			<updated>2024-05-01T00:46:22Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Started with the <a href="https://forums.hyperbola.info/viewtopic.php?id=512">thread</a>. Will be done step by step for all packages needed! <img src="https://forums.hyperbola.info/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[throgh]]></name>
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			<updated>2021-04-01T22:01:28Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>well looks like there is no big worries.</p><p>because im so curious im tested it on freebsd,&nbsp; without dbus enabled mpv works fine and midori gtk3 also works fine.</p><p>so there is will be a way i though, alternatively we can look how bsd dealing with dbus.</p><p>im noticed there still kind people maintaining some gtk2 apps, we can play on those until nodbus gtk3 finished.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[dikasp2]]></name>
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			<updated>2021-04-01T12:43:32Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: List of desktop software for Milky Way v0.4 and HyperbolaBSD]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>dikasp2 wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>thanks</p></blockquote></div><p>Thank you for bringing up this issue and the need for tryout and building. I think that 0.4 is absolutely possible without dbus. The problems with some major applications stay: Meaning therefore you cannot install <strong>k3b</strong> or <strong>kdenlive</strong> for example. I&#039;m searching for alternatives. Found this for <strong>k3b</strong> with <strong>xfburn</strong>, but <strong>kdenlive</strong> is much more complicated until now. But I&#039;m sure: There will be a solution for video-editing also! The upcoming thread will therefore consists of the steps I use and just now installing another Hyperbola-system on a fresh prepared X200 this evening. So even better. <img src="https://forums.hyperbola.info/img/smilies/big_smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="big_smile" /></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[throgh]]></name>
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			<updated>2021-04-01T12:10:34Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>thanks</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[dikasp2]]></name>
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			<updated>2021-04-01T11:33:49Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Okay, will do this in another thread later on. The most &quot;complicated&quot; to do is gtk3 first as many others have in fact options to deactivate dbus or they do this when the pkg-definitions are not found on the system - meaning therefore the basic source-files for libdbus and dbus as reference for usage. Gimp for example is just searching towards dbus, when nothing found the configuration before compilation is ignoring it. Inkscape is doing the same for imagemagick: No libraries found? Well, imagemagick is ignored. Of course: The PKGBUILDs should also be defined NOT to include dbus. So I&#039;ll post my solution later for different applications, as always open and free for everyone to make suggestions. <img src="https://forums.hyperbola.info/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[throgh]]></name>
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			<updated>2021-04-01T10:36:13Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>throgh wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Hey, if you want I can share PKGBUILDs for VLC, smplayer and also gtk3 without dbus for Hyperbola 0.3 ...</p></blockquote></div><p>if you have free time to do please share nodbus vlc or mvp, would be a good example on how nodbus patch work <img src="https://forums.hyperbola.info/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[dikasp2]]></name>
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			<updated>2021-04-01T10:15:55Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: List of desktop software for Milky Way v0.4 and HyperbolaBSD]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Hey, if you want I can share PKGBUILDs for VLC, smplayer and also gtk3 without dbus for Hyperbola 0.3. They can all be used without dbus, but especially smplayer has some trouble. Also Gimp has to be compiled again! When graphicsmagick is used there are problems with Inkscape, again another recompile for the package and application.</p><p>This shows how many dependencies towards dbus are implemented in fact, not by Hyperbola itself but generic throughout the projects.</p><p>The feeling about &quot;no dbus&quot; is interesting: Also possible here to recompile gtk3 first, afterwards removing dependencies and therefore dbus itself. Not forgetting to ignore the packages afterwards: dbus, libdbus, avahi, pulseaudio. <img src="https://forums.hyperbola.info/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /> Absolutely possible and working, depending on the own workflow.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2021-04-01T09:04:56Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Will they still work with dbus disabled though?</p><p>Hmm.. I wonder if this works without any major errors.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[zapper]]></name>
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			<updated>2021-04-01T02:44:00Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: List of desktop software for Milky Way v0.4 and HyperbolaBSD]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>im just discovered all video player on hyperbola linux repo are depended with libdbus otherwise they fail to start, makes me wonder the future for hyperbsd.</p><p>any solution for nondbus or alternative implementation for video player ?<br />is bsd already have its own dbus alternative implementation ?</p><p>ps: for the user who want to try hyperbsd nodbus feeling but still on hyperbola linux you can try omit all dbus depedencies by:</p><p>sudo pacman -Rscn dbus</p><p>sudo nano /etc/pacman.conf -&gt; uncomment and add dbus to ignore package group</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2021-04-01T02:02:11Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>rached wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>zapper wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I recommend you first test with a virtual machine via qemu and reboot after you install, etc.. and then make sure everything is alright before testing 0.4 for real.</p><p>Just my two cents...</p></blockquote></div><p>its alright im planing on using one hdd just for testing, i would get same results and maybe better if i go on for real just like im gonna use it for my self, install my main packages and many others and look for bugs <br />i alos think it would be great if we started a new post just for testing and fixing pkgbuilds if we can.</p></blockquote></div><p>Alright, just remember, that laptop will likely have some issues for a while. Due to 0.4 not being finished...</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[zapper]]></name>
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			<updated>2020-12-25T22:03:06Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>zapper wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I recommend you first test with a virtual machine via qemu and reboot after you install, etc.. and then make sure everything is alright before testing 0.4 for real.</p><p>Just my two cents...</p></blockquote></div><p>its alright im planing on using one hdd just for testing, i would get same results and maybe better if i go on for real just like im gonna use it for my self, install my main packages and many others and look for bugs <br />i also think it would be great if we started a new post just for testing and fixing pkgbuilds if we can.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[rachad]]></name>
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			<updated>2020-12-21T23:15:58Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>rached wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>throgh wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Added more entries to the spreadsheet. Proposal to help with the build-scripts whenever needed and I can install 0.4 therefore for first tests.</p></blockquote></div><p>i will do the same and help with testing cause i have so much free time lately and this could make me learn more as well</p></blockquote></div><p>I recommend you first test with a virtual machine via qemu and reboot after you install, etc.. and then make sure everything is alright before testing 0.4 for real.</p><p>Just my two cents...</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2020-12-21T18:55:04Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>education software<br />qucs (quite universal circuit simulator)<br />gnu octave</p><p>file systems?<br />For transitioning to hyperbsd what will be best file system to use on large external hard drives? For example, if I have a large external hard drive and want to be able to read it from hyperbsd in the future, would it be a good idea to format it as JFS system?</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[pigeon123]]></name>
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			<updated>2020-12-21T03:39:03Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>throgh wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Added more entries to the spreadsheet. Proposal to help with the build-scripts whenever needed and I can install 0.4 therefore for first tests.</p></blockquote></div><p>i will do the same and help with testing cause i have so much free time lately and this could make me learn more as well</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[rachad]]></name>
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			<updated>2020-12-20T14:37:16Z</updated>
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