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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>throgh wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Yes, up to the team to decide. But up to all of us to decide here to integrate even more Qt-packages. From my concurrent point and knowledge: That&nbsp; is a <strong>NO</strong>. Qt has proven in a whole that they don&#039;t respect &quot;free software&quot; and only the foul compromise of &quot;open-source&quot;. So I would be pragmatic for Qt5, but not for any newer version and release. <img src="https://forums.hyperbola.info/img/smilies/wink.png" width="15" height="15" alt="wink" /></p></blockquote></div><p>Well, if qt6 really does require gtk to use, I would definitely agree... and if qt5 cannot be continued tp ne maintained without a massive amount of help as well.</p><p>Due to bloat being so irritating, etc...</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2022-07-31T04:41:03Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Yes, up to the team to decide. But up to all of us to decide here to integrate even more Qt-packages. From my concurrent point and knowledge: That&nbsp; is a <strong>NO</strong>. Qt has proven in a whole that they don&#039;t respect &quot;free software&quot; and only the foul compromise of &quot;open-source&quot;. So I would be pragmatic for Qt5, but not for any newer version and release. <img src="https://forums.hyperbola.info/img/smilies/wink.png" width="15" height="15" alt="wink" /></p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2022-07-27T20:32:09Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>throgh wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>There are some decisions of that project: I would name them not that good. First updating wxWidget-version too fast for us. That&#039;s just our problem. But then again going for Qt? Here to quote:</p><div class="quotebox"><blockquote><p>**Having seem the shortcomings of wxWidgets and how other open source applications (e.g. VLC and Dolphin), I have decided that moving to Qt for Saucedacity will be in the best interest of Saucedacity. Qt is more feature rich and also has better platform support as well, with some special points of interest at some of its offerings like QML. Either way, it is time we move on to something better, in the hopes to write better code and add some good features not previously possible.</p></blockquote></div><p><a href="https://github.com/saucedacity/saucedacity/releases">https://github.com/saucedacity/saucedacity/releases</a></p><p>Free and libre means to be also free in the decisions. Yes, using Qt is one that decision. But Qt has a problem at all with free software and the licensing behind is one thing. Another one is qtwebkit to be named and in the future their decisions are only for &quot;corporate open-source&quot;. But we should use this thread here not for that. Audacity is here: <a href="https://forums.hyperbola.info/viewtopic.php?id=538">https://forums.hyperbola.info/viewtopic.php?id=538</a></p></blockquote></div><p>On that note then, it depends which qt, doesn&#039;t it?</p><p>if its qt5, is it really an issue? as long as qt-webkit isn&#039;t being used?</p><p>Up to the team, right?</p><p><img src="https://forums.hyperbola.info/img/smilies/wink.png" width="15" height="15" alt="wink" /></p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2022-07-27T05:03:20Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>There are some decisions of that project: I would name them not that good. First updating wxWidget-version too fast for us. That&#039;s just our problem. But then again going for Qt? Here to quote:</p><div class="quotebox"><blockquote><p>**Having seem the shortcomings of wxWidgets and how other open source applications (e.g. VLC and Dolphin), I have decided that moving to Qt for Saucedacity will be in the best interest of Saucedacity. Qt is more feature rich and also has better platform support as well, with some special points of interest at some of its offerings like QML. Either way, it is time we move on to something better, in the hopes to write better code and add some good features not previously possible.</p></blockquote></div><p><a href="https://github.com/saucedacity/saucedacity/releases">https://github.com/saucedacity/saucedacity/releases</a></p><p>Free and libre means to be also free in the decisions. Yes, using Qt is one that decision. But Qt has a problem at all with free software and the licensing behind is one thing. Another one is qtwebkit to be named and in the future their decisions are only for &quot;corporate open-source&quot;. But we should use this thread here not for that. Audacity is here: <a href="https://forums.hyperbola.info/viewtopic.php?id=538">https://forums.hyperbola.info/viewtopic.php?id=538</a></p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2022-07-23T09:23:58Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>throgh wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Just check the actual <a href="https://git.hyperbola.info:50100/~team/documentation/todo.git/tree/packages.md?id=7f35f5b1cbb8ac3b817ca0206d2bc647a80fa2f9">list of packages</a> for being included into <strong>Hyperbola GNU/Linux-libre 0.4</strong>. There are changes about the progress and especially the package <strong>gtkgreet</strong> cannot be included further as it depends on PAM and needs Rust / Cargo for compilation as it is only possible to run with the display-manager <strong>greetd</strong> (<a href="https://git.sr.ht/~kennylevinsen/greetd">https://git.sr.ht/~kennylevinsen/greetd</a>).</p></blockquote></div><p>Good to know, btw...</p><p>You may be interested in a psrticular audacity fork:</p><p><a href="https://github.com/saucedacity/saucedacity">https://github.com/saucedacity/saucedacity</a></p><p>it is one of the few that has life still in it that actually isn&#039;t infected and/or dead.</p><p>In the case of most forks, dead is more accurate tho...</p><p>Except a certain one, which I don&#039;t need to name...</p><p>You can wait for it to be stable, wait till HyperbolaBSD is stable, 0.4.1, or just not bother till other informations is made available, etc...</p><p>Just wanted to mention this project...</p><p><img src="https://forums.hyperbola.info/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2022-07-23T04:06:51Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Hey you all, it has been a longer time this thread was not really more active. So this is changing for today: Work is done for HyperbolaBSD in the background most the time as rebranding is needed in the first place. Everyone being interested here: You are for sure invited to help and support. Nevertheless we also go further for our version 0.4. There will be a merge coming from <strong>testing</strong> to <strong>stable</strong>, so you will get all the added new and optimized packages and removals.</p><p>After that the next to come is version 0.4.1 and we will work on exactly two parts being stable: <strong>runit</strong> and <strong>hyperinstaller</strong><br />Also here the invitation: Everyone interested in testing or further fixing, just contact us throughout for example <a href="https://www.hyperbola.info/members/developers/">tox</a>. There are already <a href="https://forums.hyperbola.info/viewtopic.php?pid=4728#p4728">tests going for now</a>, thanks to <strong>the_hype</strong>.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2022-07-15T09:38:26Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Just check the actual <a href="https://git.hyperbola.info:50100/~team/documentation/todo.git/tree/packages.md?id=7f35f5b1cbb8ac3b817ca0206d2bc647a80fa2f9">list of packages</a> for being included into <strong>Hyperbola GNU/Linux-libre 0.4</strong>. There are changes about the progress and especially the package <strong>gtkgreet</strong> cannot be included further as it depends on PAM and needs Rust / Cargo for compilation as it is only possible to run with the display-manager <strong>greetd</strong> (<a href="https://git.sr.ht/~kennylevinsen/greetd">https://git.sr.ht/~kennylevinsen/greetd</a>).</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2021-05-20T14:36:04Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p><span class="bbu"><strong>Development-news, 20.05.2021</strong></span></p><p>Now the first window-managers are available: <strong>i3-wm</strong>, <strong>jwm</strong> and <strong>icewm</strong>.<br />The first complete desktop-environment is ready for testing: <strong>lumina</strong>.</p><p>For more just have a look onto:</p><p><a href="https://git.hyperbola.info:50100/packages/core.git/">https://git.hyperbola.info:50100/packages/core.git/</a><br /><a href="https://git.hyperbola.info:50100/packages/extra.git/">https://git.hyperbola.info:50100/packages/extra.git/</a></p><p>But that&#039;s not all: We are now up to more applications, libraries and environments coming up within the next days. Therefore also getting this thread updated. <img src="https://forums.hyperbola.info/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2021-05-19T22:21:19Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Thanks throgh. Those had some errors. I have pushed updated versions on</p><p><a href="https://git.hyperbola.info:50100/~team/packages/extra.git/">https://git.hyperbola.info:50100/~team/ … extra.git/</a></p><p>Let&#039;s make a list of everything left till v0.4 and make a fast sprint towards a v0.4 iso.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2021-05-08T05:12:25Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p><span class="bbu"><strong>Development-news, 07.05.2021</strong></span></p><p>First development is done for <strong>Lumina</strong> (big thanks to sagaracharya here: <a href="https://git.hyperbola.info:50100/~~sagaracharya/packages/extra.git/">https://git.hyperbola.info:50100/~~saga … extra.git/</a>) and building packages incoming for <strong>qemu</strong> and <strong>grub</strong> as soon as possible. For next week there has to also a talk about the <a href="https://www.hyperbola.info/packages/core/x86_64/filesystem/">filesystem</a> and permissions to be reviewed within.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2021-05-07T23:14:36Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>zapper wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Speaking of&nbsp; Hyperbola&#039;s 0.4 version, do you have a timeline of when it will be finished or even in beta?</p></blockquote></div><p>Hey zapper, not yet a final version for <strong>Hyperbola GNU/Linux-libre 0.4</strong>. Sorry!<br />If you have further interests in helping, please have a look also here: <a href="https://forums.hyperbola.info/viewtopic.php?id=533">https://forums.hyperbola.info/viewtopic.php?id=533</a></p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2021-05-03T18:44:46Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Speaking of&nbsp; Hyperbola&#039;s 0.4 version, do you have a timeline of when it will be finished or even in beta?</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2021-05-02T10:42:41Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p><span class="bbu"><strong>Development-news, 26.04.2021</strong></span></p><p>Finishing the lesson about pointer and also some more definition for the <a href="https://forums.hyperbola.info/viewtopic.php?pid=2945#p2945">concrete posting</a>.<br />Within this point the concurrent lessons about C are going to halt here. Furthermore it is important to get the work for <strong>Hyperbola GNU/Linux-libre 0.4</strong> done and therefore a possible release-schedule. For everyone interested to help: Visit us within the <a href="irc://irc.freenode.net/#hyperbola">IRC</a>.</p><p>Besides that the <a href="https://forums.hyperbola.info/viewtopic.php?pid=2947#p2947">stack-example</a> got a better version with comments!</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2021-04-26T22:40:47Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p><span class="bbu"><strong>Development-news, 23.04.2021</strong></span></p><p>Today we&#039;re talking first about pointers in C. <a href="https://forums.hyperbola.info/viewtopic.php?pid=2945#p2945">Here</a> you can find the concurrent information about that part. Furthermore: The examples to follow <a href="https://forums.hyperbola.info/viewtopic.php?pid=2946#p2946">here</a>. And just for the next part to talk about more data-structures like a stack, the example to be find <a href="https://forums.hyperbola.info/viewtopic.php?pid=2947#p2947">here</a>.</p><p>Pointers are not easy to understand and I have recognized again: There is no real easy way to explain them. Also we have another example within the thread for the keyword <strong>void</strong>, to look <a href="https://forums.hyperbola.info/viewtopic.php?pid=2949#p2949">here</a>.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2021-04-23T19:27:38Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p><span class="bbu"><strong>Development-news, 22.04.2021</strong></span></p><p>Hello code-adventurers, today we are into a bit more enhancements for the code itself. Learning more about the coding-styles and data-structures. As always: The material is ready for you <a href="https://forums.hyperbola.info/viewtopic.php?pid=2943#p2943">here</a>!</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2021-04-22T21:04:13Z</updated>
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