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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Package(s) added, so <strong>dwm</strong> is now part of <strong>Hyperbola</strong> in both flavors. <img src="https://forums.hyperbola.info/img/smilies/wink.png" width="15" height="15" alt="wink" /><br />Thread closed!</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[throgh]]></name>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>The next commit will include:</p><p><strong>dwm-bin</strong> as compiled package, including the source-code and configuration<br /><strong>dwm-src</strong> as meta-package, just including the source-code and some initial advice</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[throgh]]></name>
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			<updated>2021-07-12T14:10:49Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>throgh wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Thanks this helps to develop the package or better both packages. My proposal would be therefore:</p><p><strong>dwm-src</strong> - including all needed dependencies being installed with the source and patches into /opt<br /><strong>dwm-bin</strong> - the precompiled binary done here</p></blockquote></div><p>+1 for more wise approach</p><p>just for futureproof, source packages are good but compiled packages offer quick install and try</p><p>example case would be like if an new user just want to try various lightweight window manager and find one best for him, it is more easy to install/uninstall multiple binary ready ones than compiling</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2021-07-09T23:27:07Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Thanks this helps to develop the package or better both packages. My proposal would be therefore:</p><p><strong>dwm-src</strong> - including all needed dependencies being installed with the source and patches into /opt<br /><strong>dwm-bin</strong> - the precompiled binary done here</p><p>Only one package-flavor can be installed for sure. But that&#039;s possible as we already use that for <strong>dosbox</strong> and <strong>dosbox-staging</strong>. So both packages would provide &quot;dwm&quot;, but have different approaches for sure. <img src="https://forums.hyperbola.info/img/smilies/wink.png" width="15" height="15" alt="wink" /></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[throgh]]></name>
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			<updated>2021-07-09T12:18:17Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>pigeon123 wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>The nice thing about having a compiled version however is that it gives the opportunity for someone not knowing much of the details to quickly try it out and see what it is all about.&nbsp; I tried dwm already compiled from hyperbola 0.3 and found I really like it and would like to try some other configurations and customizations using source code and re-compilation.&nbsp; I am not a developer, but I know a little C and realize that dwm source code is easy to follow and looks like it has a nice learning curve.&nbsp; So having the source code is definitely a good idea, but for someone new or not knowing about dwm, I think a compiled version ready to go provides a good entry point.&nbsp; Likely once someone tries it and reads more about it and like it they will see the benefit of learning to modify and compile their own version.&nbsp; That could be a doorway to other things in the free computing world.</p></blockquote></div><p>I disagree. For using default dwm, one has to do...</p><div class="codebox"><pre><code>git clone https://git.suckless.org/dwm
git checkout 6.2
make clean install</code></pre></div><p>How difficult is that? Spirit of dwm is to understand code minimally and be able to edit it. For patching, one just has to understand git-patch utility. I was of the opinion that just write the above steps in documentation and how to edit .xinitrc , that&#039;s it! No dwm in packages, but in documentation there would be help on how to install dwm.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[sagaracharya]]></name>
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			<updated>2021-07-09T06:08:48Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: [dwm] to be added as so-called "meta-package"?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>The nice thing about having a compiled version however is that it gives the opportunity for someone not knowing much of the details to quickly try it out and see what it is all about.&nbsp; I tried dwm already compiled from hyperbola 0.3 and found I really like it and would like to try some other configurations and customizations using source code and re-compilation.&nbsp; I am not a developer, but I know a little C and realize that dwm source code is easy to follow and looks like it has a nice learning curve.&nbsp; So having the source code is definitely a good idea, but for someone new or not knowing about dwm, I think a compiled version ready to go provides a good entry point.&nbsp; Likely once someone tries it and reads more about it and like it they will see the benefit of learning to modify and compile their own version.&nbsp; That could be a doorway to other things in the free computing world.</p><p>But what is the issue with dependencies for font-rendering?&nbsp; Are there some pitfalls there or things best avoided with regard to protecting freedoms?</p><p>By the way Throgh, I also tried jwm which you mentioned to me once in a different thread, and I like that one too.&nbsp; So far, dwm and jwm may be my favorites.&nbsp; My biggest concern however is freedom of use and being less dependent on anything that has some ties to non-free tools.&nbsp; I read this forum and others on freedom issues but in making selections not sure what software packages to be more concerned or cautious about using.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2021-07-09T05:39:11Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>This is a good approach, as it is needed to compile dwm (for the majority of users). </p><p>It is nice to have dwm in the repo, so people will find it when they <strong>pacman -Ss window manager</strong>.</p><p>p.s. nice cmus today <img src="https://forums.hyperbola.info/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2021-07-08T12:55:19Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>In respect for the project <a href="https://dwm.suckless.org/">dwm</a> I&#039;d like to try another approach and build more or less a so-called &quot;meta-package&quot;. This will not include a ready-to-use window-manager itself and more or less only the source-code ready to be used for compilation and modifications. Seems to be the way the project likes to be used as far as I was told until today from different people. But the meta-package should also include all needed dependencies. If there is interest, two questions:</p><p>What dependencies to use at best (especially for font-rendering)?<br />Do you think this approach is fitting?</p><p>Thanks! <img src="https://forums.hyperbola.info/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p>]]></content>
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