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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Support for development of packages and applications in Hyperbola 0.4]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Topic is closed for reasoning: <a href="https://forums.hyperbola.info/viewtopic.php?id=656">https://forums.hyperbola.info/viewtopic.php?id=656</a></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[throgh]]></name>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Support for development of packages and applications in Hyperbola 0.4]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Well, if some of us find another possible addition we can add it. <img src="https://forums.hyperbola.info/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /><br />There will be for sure another application.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2022-03-11T23:11:31Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Support for development of packages and applications in Hyperbola 0.4]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Okay I didn&#039;t know, it seems that at this moment there are not many alternatives for terminal.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[gnu]]></name>
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			<updated>2022-03-11T12:57:01Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Support for development of packages and applications in Hyperbola 0.4]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>This is not possible because of the dependency of the corresponding application towards <strong>Rust</strong>!<br />We don&#039;t support <strong>Rust</strong> out of the freedom-flaws it has for the moment.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[throgh]]></name>
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			<updated>2022-03-10T23:29:54Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Support for development of packages and applications in Hyperbola 0.4]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Could you add an &quot;RSS/Atom&quot; reader in the next Hyperbola release 0.4.1?</p><p>Something like newsboat <br /></p><div class="codebox"><pre><code>https://newsboat.org/</code></pre></div>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[gnu]]></name>
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			<updated>2022-03-10T23:15:03Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Support for development of packages and applications in Hyperbola 0.4]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>throgh wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Oh, gnucash should be there. It is in our git, will look why it was lost on the buildserver. <img src="https://forums.hyperbola.info/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /><br />Thanks for noting.</p></blockquote></div><p>Great news <img src="https://forums.hyperbola.info/img/smilies/big_smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="big_smile" /></p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2022-02-23T14:36:43Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Support for development of packages and applications in Hyperbola 0.4]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Oh, gnucash should be there. It is in our git, will look why it was lost on the buildserver. <img src="https://forums.hyperbola.info/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /><br />Thanks for noting.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[throgh]]></name>
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			<updated>2022-02-23T10:53:05Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Support for development of packages and applications in Hyperbola 0.4]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>throgh wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Correction for the <strong>todo-lists</strong> (please look also at the first posting within this thread):</p><p><a href="https://git.hyperbola.info:50100/~team/documentation/todo.git/about/todo-list_0.4.1.md">https://git.hyperbola.info:50100/~team/ … t_0.4.1.md</a></p></blockquote></div><br /><p>No gnuCash .... <img src="https://forums.hyperbola.info/img/smilies/sad.png" width="15" height="15" alt="sad" /></p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2022-02-23T07:36:44Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Support for development of packages and applications in Hyperbola 0.4]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Correction for the <strong>todo-lists</strong> (please look also at the first posting within this thread):</p><p><a href="https://git.hyperbola.info:50100/~team/documentation/todo.git/about/todo-list_0.4.1.md">https://git.hyperbola.info:50100/~team/ … t_0.4.1.md</a></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[throgh]]></name>
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			<updated>2022-02-22T23:30:33Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Support for development of packages and applications in Hyperbola 0.4]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Hello together, we have now reached the next step for our TODO-list with adding <strong>libvirt</strong> and <strong>virt-manager</strong>.<br />The following packages won&#039;t be part for 0.4 and are going to be part for later releases:</p><p><strong>blender</strong><br /><strong>0ad</strong></p><p>To get the listing for those: <strong><a href="https://git.hyperbola.info:50100/~team/documentation/todo.git/about/packages_added-later.md">packages_added-later.md</a></strong></p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2022-02-22T17:22:57Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Support for development of packages and applications in Hyperbola 0.4]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Nice! CalDAV is so important for my daily workflow. </p><p>How else can I keep postponing todo tasks from ... August 2015? <img src="https://forums.hyperbola.info/img/smilies/tongue.png" width="15" height="15" alt="tongue" /></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[nparafe]]></name>
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			<updated>2022-02-11T08:02:11Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Support for development of packages and applications in Hyperbola 0.4]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Thanks will be part of our list for further research after the release. And for sure there will be more work to come then for 0.4.1. <img src="https://forums.hyperbola.info/img/smilies/wink.png" width="15" height="15" alt="wink" /></p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2022-02-10T21:10:19Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Support for development of packages and applications in Hyperbola 0.4]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Although I have never used it, maybe an option for viewing and managing CalDAV and CardDAV is <a href="https://radicale.org/master.html#infcloud-caldavzap-and-carddavmate">Radicale with InfCloud, CalDavZAP and CardDavMATE</a>.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2022-02-10T12:03:03Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Support for development of packages and applications in Hyperbola 0.4]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I have no doubt that UXP-applications being no longer updated. And I have no doubt that we have to remove them at one point when there is no further way. But I underline again: It is not missing the point that Hyperbola needs to focus on points as we have not much time and therefore workforce to go for multiple workloads for now.</p><p>So either the community is going to support, or we can only do at a time what we are doing. This means also: Focus onto the release for now. There is nothing missing the point into that as there are enough packages to be prepared. That&#039;s all I have written and said. And for sure there are going to be security-issues. The point here is: Browsers like the smaller ones we have won&#039;t solve that problem incoming.</p><p>We need also to find a solution for calendar-management (CalDAV and CardDAV) and can combine them with <strong>claws-mail</strong>. Everyone is invited to help here also. Again: Just something is working for one individual does not mean it works for all at once. So I manage my digital calendar with <strong>icedove-uxp</strong>. Removing it, leaves me for example with a missing point and for sure I am not the only one. So instead of discussing the point of UXP-applications, I remember that there is need for that as free software only exists with the community-effort: Finding a good workflow instead and then removing UXP-applications from the repositories. But also here to remember: People come with names and having no &quot;Mozilla&quot; in any case means therefore more time for the team and the community to explain up and down as not everyone is involved in ...</p><p>... the problems with Mozilla Firefox and Thunderbird ...<br />... the technical issues being related to those ...<br />... the reasoning why we removed then alternatives ...<br />... and last but not least cannot build newer versions (using Rust as dependency).</p><p>So I want to make sure that we don&#039;t go up and down with those discussions, because at one point there is no further time and room for. And to be honest: I don&#039;t want to explain that everytime again to people asking why no version x of application y. Not meant personal, but I had enough of that for now. <img src="https://forums.hyperbola.info/img/smilies/wink.png" width="15" height="15" alt="wink" /></p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2022-02-09T17:53:45Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Support for development of packages and applications in Hyperbola 0.4]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>throgh wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>There are some discussions around the UXP-applications and so I think for now it should be clear: All UXP-applications stay in the repositories until otherwise said. The reasoning is that <strong>icedove-uxp</strong> is a fine application for calendar- and mail-management for example. <strong>iceweasel-uxp</strong> and <strong>iceape-uxp</strong> are functional so far as browsers. When possible we all can search for possible replacements - and please for now <strong>claws-mail</strong> is not alone. But please also to remember: Just if something works for me or you, does not mean it works for everyone else. That&#039;s the point and most reasoning we wait, especially because 0.4 must be first released in the public.</p><p>We have also no time for sure to jump behind every new released application with some promises. Here to remember: If you want something to be pushed forward, you are invited to work also for yourself and share what you have found out for everyone else to test. If we would do so and jump behind everything, we can never release version 0.4.</p></blockquote></div><p>I think you are missing the point... the uxp applications are no longer being updated... </p><p>Thus, it is a huge security issue.&nbsp; I&nbsp; strongly believe,&nbsp; that Emulatorman would disagree if they are no longer being updated.</p><p>That being said, if you could convince Luke to work on Hyperbola some more, aka, developing newer versions of UXP, then I have no doubt it would be no problem whatsoever. </p><p>Though, I don&#039;t know if that is possible, he seems to be losing interest last I checked with him.</p><p>My point though, is that wisdom needs to be used regarding the uxp situation. </p><p>If you want to save the current packages somewhere until you can convince Luke or someone else to work on it, that&#039;s one thing, but its really a very bad idea to keep them in&nbsp; without updating.&nbsp; </p><p>I fear you will disagree, but I hope wisdom will prevail in this situation.</p><p>Edit: typos</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2022-02-09T17:12:01Z</updated>
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