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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Support for Python-packages: Call for help]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>The problem here is that this package does not help in the concurrent problem: The mentioned packages need code-adaption and testing, especially <strong>hyperinstaller</strong>. We have also no usecase for pip2arch: The help needed is not only packaging, it is about support for development and testing. We have not included <strong>your-freedom</strong> for the moment as we thought this is not needed. Hyperbola is built from scratch and need therefore careful handle and attention. There are no longer packages imported directly!</p><p>Hyperbola is NOT Arch GNU/Linux. It shares basics, sure. But this does not mean we can import and will adapt those packages. And also: If we would adapt this kind of package we would open an invitation for further problems. There is a reasoning to do packaging absolutely manual. Not only that we need then the blacklisting: Why should we include something with needed blacklisting? People should care what is installed on their systems, not to give away responsibility for someone looking everytime with a concrete listing as this needs even more time to get renewed with more entries. The time the <a href="https://git.hyperbola.info:50100/~team/software/blacklist.git/">blacklist</a> was done is surely a bit behind, so we also would need to add uncountable numbers of names and packages from everywhere (not only Arch GNU/Linux). <a href="https://forums.hyperbola.info/viewtopic.php?id=724">Linux (without GNU) is an area to leave for reasoning</a>, with just growing non-free parts and so many problems only with foul compromises. And just because a package does not have direct dependencies for problems does not mean those won&#039;t later occur. Automatic created package-buildscripts can result within a complete desaster! Using software-frameworks is complicated as they simulate something you will surely never have with them: Control. Generating automated scripts is the same result: You better understand what components are in use and especially why as the resulting package is therefore also better to debug when errors are there.</p><p>I close this thread for the moment: If there is interest to help - and help is surely welcome at any time on any way - you all know the places to get information. If you want to look out for <strong>hyperinstaller</strong>: <a href="https://git.hyperbola.info:50100/~team/software/hyperinstaller.git/">https://git.hyperbola.info:50100/~team/ … aller.git/</a><br />Again also: Sorry, but development and testing is needed, packaging not. So helpers are surely nice, thanks to acknowledge them here. But we have no problem with python-packages, we have missing man-power for python-development. <img src="https://forums.hyperbola.info/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[throgh]]></name>
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			<updated>2022-10-25T06:08:45Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Support for Python-packages: Call for help]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Actually, two things:</p><p><a href="https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/pip2arch-git">https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/pip2arch-git</a></p><p>This doesn&#039;&#039;t require pip to use and possibly someone could presumably make it so that, if any software you install with it is on the current blacklist, it&nbsp; will fail.</p><p>Btw, as a huge aside, I forgot to send you something till now, which I placed in this upload area:</p><p><a href="https://upload.disroot.org/r/s1YSvx2j#/CwRHZeQwpgtfTbd43PMb5b3wSyEUkZgzH8lDEUjvsQ=">https://upload.disroot.org/r/s1YSvx2j#/ … 8lDEUjvsQ=</a></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[zapper]]></name>
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			<updated>2022-10-25T00:30:01Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Support for Python-packages: Call for help]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>We have removed <strong>hyperinstaller</strong>: The project itself is nevertheless here and can be revived for further development and finalization. But for the moment it is not possible and ready for packaging.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[throgh]]></name>
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			<updated>2022-10-23T09:41:10Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Support for Python-packages: Call for help]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>If there is no one willing to support, we will remove <strong>hyperinstaller</strong> with the upcoming release 0.4.2. This will result into a complete focus after 0.4.2 for HyperbolaBSD. Nevertheless there will be updates for Hyperbola GNU/Linux-libre for the time being. But we need to focus and man-power.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[throgh]]></name>
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			<updated>2022-10-19T20:09:00Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Support for Python-packages: Call for help]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>throgh wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Thanks, but: The problem is here that <strong>pip</strong> is needed and we don&#039;t include it or will be packaging it. We have <strong>hyperman</strong> (pacman), there is no need for another package-management outside even breaking possible free and libre parts with adding non-free licensed packages outside the HOME-folder of users.</p></blockquote></div><p>Ah yeah, I see it&#039;d have to be done from a different machine or a spare with pip. If that&#039;s even worth the effort.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[auanta]]></name>
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			<updated>2022-10-06T20:23:21Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, but: The problem is here that <strong>pip</strong> is needed and we don&#039;t include it or will be packaging it. We have <strong>hyperman</strong> (pacman), there is no need for another package-management outside even breaking possible free and libre parts with adding non-free licensed packages outside the HOME-folder of users.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2022-10-06T19:08:22Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>For any python packages these might be helpful for generating PKGBUILDs.</p><p><a href="https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/pipman-git">https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/pipman-git</a><br /><a href="https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/pip2arch-git">https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/pip2arch-git</a><br /><a href="https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/python-pypi2pkgbuild">https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/python-pypi2pkgbuild</a></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[auanta]]></name>
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			<updated>2022-10-06T13:32:07Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Hello dear community,</p><p>we need support with the further development of some of our Python- and Perl-based packages. To name them here as follows:</p><p><strong>hyperinstaller:</strong> This application needs further testing and fixing problems. You can review the code <a href="https://git.hyperbola.info:50100/~team/software/hyperinstaller.git/">here</a><br /><strong>hypervideo:</strong> We need here people looking after the development and support <strong>heckyel</strong>. You can look onto the package <a href="https://www.hyperbola.info/packages/extra/any/hypervideo/">here</a><br /><strong>fair-viewer:</strong> We need here people looking after the development and support <strong>heckyel</strong>. You can look onto the package <a href="https://www.hyperbola.info/packages/?sort=&amp;q=fair-viewer&amp;maintainer=&amp;flagged=">here</a><br /><strong>yt-local:</strong> We need here people looking after the development and support <strong>heckyel</strong>. You can look onto the package <a href="https://www.hyperbola.info/packages/extra/any/yt-local/">here</a></p><p>The package <strong>yt-local</strong> would be for sure not the highest priority. For the others besides <strong>hyperinstaller</strong> we need first also to import the needed data into our local repositories. If you have further interest to help us with the development and be for sure part of the team: Just leave a message here or contact us within IRC or mail. Thanks!</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2022-09-14T18:28:59Z</updated>
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