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Well, there is no "good work" in both as I've already stated. But please try to make a difference: I stay exactly at those agitation, not at some ideological thinking. There is another point within called in German "Hufeisentheorie" or better translated "Extremism theory". The meaning to scribble that down: There is some middle between left and right politics and the middle is the "good". There are enough indications around that this is a complete failure because this fails at the point to recognize the roots of social problems in a whole. Just the extreme political positions should be the problem? Mentioning hardlining libertarian or alt-right? Or communism? As if those directions popup just from nowhere: In reality the so-called "social middle" is the complete root for hatred, for harassment and pure cruel deeds. People hating others for just nothing more than their look or some preferences. A good callout: There is no final solution for that and in the reality we need to work every single moment again for a better perspective. Technology is included in all of that: It is done also with ideologocial roots, but is also developing as society is doing that. When we fail to recognize society as whole and technology the same, we fail also to describe problems. So it is quite easy to do fingerpointing at someone and making myself free of any point. The person I take for my fingerpointing is going to be than my "token", some figurine I refer for all problems but the reality looks for sure different. Included within all that: Manipulation and the perspective not to reflect in any way. A solution? Impossible at that point, in reference for Libreboot. So I stay away from naming scheme I think I have recognized, even also using some referring links Leah herself has written in the past for example. Just to point out that she has also crossed a red line by her takeover for Libreboot and throwing out people being engaged. Both crossed red lines measuring only what they have done and said. Nothing more, nothing less.

So the original Libreboot done back in 2016 oriented onto democratic organization and a peer structure was and is the one I refer to. The one being now the result of the last actions is - for me speaking - nothing more than a libre coreboot and better to use that for sure. I think the point is absolutely clear. And no I have not understood that you defend Luke Smith, but I wanted to make also clear that free software is not within an empty room and we have a resonsibility. Freedom comes always included within that. wink No will for taking own responsibility, means always also that other beings (yes, referring to all inhibitants of earth) have to suffer, humans included. And nothing of that is needed, in any way.

But that's what this thread is about also and so I'm thankful that you have brought up this point. For sure that is all very complex and to write down the full parts of failures for the "Extremism theory" will lead completely off-topic, quoting all links of some problematic viewpoints of Leah will do the same besides it will even do something I personally would not want: Doing harm for Leah in person. There is always room for a change, so I hope she remembers that she was once very upset about discrimination and wanted another way to manage Libreboot. smile When there is no room for changing, than there will be time for other things like a fork or people supporting more the free and libre Coreboot-tree for example.

Besides: That would be also a good point for further documentations. big_smile
So I'll look closer into that. But I think we need also to look out for possible ways further. Just to name a concrete example: When it takes about days to get information together how to install custom firmware on a mobile device (yes, older one and none with Replicant), how can we ever think going further? Technology fails being thought as a whole, soft- and hardware being reused instead of thrown away. Not only hosting more servers, including more power consumption, writing even more bloated things for a so-called modern "internet". Modern would be a real global society oriented onto progress for all, not only some.

Human being in favor with clear principles and so also for freedom in soft- and hardware!

Certainly anyone who has the power to make you believe absurdities has the power to make you commit injustices: For a life of every being full with peace and kindness, including diversity and freedom. Capitalism is destroying our minds, the planet itself and the universe in the end!

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I refute and disagree with the point that I defended Luke, understanding the reasons behind something inequals "defending", indeed we are transient beings, I dont think leah is a bad person just has some less healthy habits of lying and deception, an dthat needs to be called out, I agree "left/right is stupid" I mesure it in freedom, and how authoritarian a system is. The rest you explained it beautifully, thanks for that.

Regarding specific implementation I actually found a kexec equivalent is called octBOOT
https://man.openbsd.org/octboot

There was also some interest from some people in heads payload to use such as well in future, also I talked to some old libreboot contributors, and they would be onboard as well, mostly active on coreboot at the moment.
HyperbolaBSD would be a excellent target for a bootloader given we could avoid codebase duplication, and lessen atack surface for some less maintained bit of GRUB boatloader. similar to reasons why we dont want wireless modules on now deprecated systemd to avoid duplication and reduce atack surface
this talk is a good resource for that https://media.ccc.de/v/33c3-8314-bootst … ure_laptop

As for the attestation bit we could use nlnet founded work in TBMtrustedbootmodule, this could also be a good source of income for hyperbola who knows. ATTENTION TBM != TPMtrustedplatformmodule
good talk on this https://media.ccc.de/v/SHA2017-280-tbm_ … oot_module

Has for the name hyperboot sounds kinda a nice name for a payload.

As for development module we should try to keep as close as possible to coreboot, to reduce overhead so like automating commits and scipting possible bits, like the codebase doesnt need much maintenance, using coreboot and heads and 2016 libreboot has upstream.

This is more or less the vision I have for it big_smile

Treeplanter byday, Politics bynight

CRITICAL THINKING WITHOUT HOPE IS CYNICAL,
AND HOPE WITHOUT CRITICAL THINKING IS NAÏVE

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Oh perhaps I had a wrong sentence? I did not mean to say "you defend", the opposite. smile
Sorry, if that was a misunderstanding.

But "left" and "right" within politics has their meaning. It is just that people misuse that very often in our times. For a world in peace "right politics" have no solution at all as being always focussed onto the egoism (at minimum). I stay more at the description to the individualism in collectivism and the collectivism in the individualism. I consider myself as a human form Earth. Drawing imaginary lines onto isn't my thing. Selection of others by their look and roots is not my thing. And following some demagogues or apologists for hatred also not. A united humanity would be my thing, but i know this is only a dream. As said this is more to understand that every being has the right for a living in peace and dignity. Incompatible with the concurrent viewpoints our society has. For sure criticism will be always needed also for some outcoming ideas from "so-called left" politics (they are not when ignoring the essential rights of others). In the political compass there is for a reason the difference between them including libertarian and authoritarian besides left and right.

Human being in favor with clear principles and so also for freedom in soft- and hardware!

Certainly anyone who has the power to make you believe absurdities has the power to make you commit injustices: For a life of every being full with peace and kindness, including diversity and freedom. Capitalism is destroying our minds, the planet itself and the universe in the end!