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Everytime reading again those phrase like "think big with free software". And everytime again it is the same answer I have in my mind. But this time I'll try to write the answer down because I have enough reading those phrases again and again. You know what, you "big"-thinkers? Free software should not intended to "rule them all" or to "conquer", or for "world domination" as to read fresh from the KDE-front (https://pointieststick.com/2021/11/13/b … o-win-big/). Have you even understand WHY so many stories in literature have warned about that parts? And yes: The choice "rule them all" was a choice from me within this text, because there is a prominent story using that and it is for sure NOT a friendly one. You think "world domination" of free software brings us nearer towards freedom, privacy and security?

Think again: That won't happen. Just you are using some parts of free soft- and hardware, brings you nowhere. Not even near towards your wildest phantasies or imaginations. Understanding better is just some possible way: Reflecting ourselves every day and ask if it is okay doing someting. Not asking for permission in the first place, asking for approval of rational argumentation. Otherwise you will have again people making arguments like having some unfree services won't change anything. Okay? Steam, Netflix, YouTube and so many more. What has changed therefore? And then looking onto desktop-environments like KDE or Gnome. They have paid a price for being what they call "flexible". Is that the way?

To quote some interesting sentence from Nietzsche:

Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And when you look long into an abyss, the abyss also looks into you.

Well, there is more to say especially about that phrase and sentence. It is not easy to use. But from the generic point: What do you think will become out of "free software" and the idea behind, when "world domination" is reached? The "free software" won't stay for sure that way we think it is for now. There will be a price to be paid. For pragmatism for example the integration of unfree services we now remove with much work here from packages for Hyperbola. Or do you think we do this just for the fun? Therefore to remember onto especially that point. In particular the mentioned "abyss" is a sort of monster, the monster of complete cynicism and true nihilism - the completely empty man without principles and values. You think this won't happen and "free software" will evolve? Perhaps? But until now you can see also the opposite: Companies like Purism on the rise with only illusions for sale and false promises. And projects like KDE with a stand in some way but more of the same on the other also. More of the known paradigm, just some "open-source" in the end and nothing more.

Personally I see the fight has been already lost for those environments and projects like Gnome and KDE, for projects like Blender also. Or do you think companies like Adobe grant financial support because of their interest within technical emancipation? Good joke then. wink
You want to "conquer"? Well, please do that only in your imaginations - and for the best keep it there. Think of "world domination"? You know that especially those words and phrases are the complete opposite of emancipation? You know WHY those imaginations being "allmighty" don't end good? Just have a look in the history as it tells us about archaic developments, because dominance is also about oppression. A quite fitting and good lesson: Copy known paradigm and you will become the same, the next unfree project then. Because the first thing to fall is the freedom of choice when you implement on the other hand ultimate flexibility and dream about your so-called "world domination", dear KDE. You can even learn that right now from the so-called "fediverse" and the corresponding implementations under that name. Perhaps a look onto "Diaspora"? Once an interesting project, but the search for MORE brought for sure that and just for the price of reflected discussions to leave and hatred going in. Look onto "Mastodon" or others. Same the way as those platforms live from the same souce the unfree services also at the same time. And you think you could do better, but at the same places as Microsoft, Apple and others? As I've said: Good joke as the more you think to fight against something, you can become that also.

The opposite way would be: Just don't copy only known parts. You think being in need for more than an INIT-system? A complete service-framework? And then? Being in need for a pragmatic approach for the desktop-communication? A network framework? Or just to use other ways being already there. Maybe they are not that kind of modern, not always pragmatic. But keep it free then and freedom of choice for the users. The best way would be: Hopefully this "desktop-dominant" Linux (without GNU) will NEVER happen. The more it is a system for masses the more it will need compromises to be done. I don't think big, I think about clear steps as principles and values are important.

Sidenote: Yes, I know, sharing that article above keeps getting attention for this. But attentions is not only working in one direction, you know? So the attention I want to make is the one being into the problems. So it is up to you, dear readers. And for sure: You can also disagree about my posting here. But time will tell us the direction and until now it shows a clear picture as more and more principles have already became only recommendations or even worse. And to get that clear: I don't compare KDE or Gnome to some monsters or monstrosities. If you think that's the case you should read again the whole work of Nietzsche and especially the book the quote was taken from. This is a clear metaphor as you have to pay in some way and the desktop-environments named here have made their choices long ago. There is always a chance they go for another way, but as growing bigger - and that's also the part of "dominance" - it will become even more complicated to change a course in a whole until it is irreversible.

Human being in favor with clear principles and so also for freedom in soft- and hardware!

Certainly anyone who has the power to make you believe absurdities has the power to make you commit injustices: For a life of every being full with peace and kindness, including diversity and freedom. Capitalism is destroying our minds, the planet itself and the universe in the end!

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And just to note: If you think a democratic society can uphold itself, you should read for sure more in history. There are enough people around having their own problems with democratic participation and wanting to exclude others not fitting in their perspective. You think it is your right to participate? Way too easy as all those parts were fought for, a major part of human history was about freedom and ways of living together. And you think now we have the best society of all times? Okay, think again as all people thought the same in history. But that's not what emancipation is all about. You think fascists have the right to participate also? Okay, get this clear: Fascism is an ideology of complete destruction. There is no other outcome. And get this also clear, please: Totalitarian systems CAN have fascism backgrounds, but also can exist without it. System based onto fascism ALWAYS have totalitarian backgrounds included and cannot exist without it. Learning the difference and learning also that antifascism is the duty within democratic participation. And it is not only an empty phrase as the word "Antifa" itself is of a meaning, but also a word. You think there is an agenda behind the word? Well, you have read for sure wrong-sided perspectives. Antifa is antifascism, nothing more and nothing less. wink

Human being in favor with clear principles and so also for freedom in soft- and hardware!

Certainly anyone who has the power to make you believe absurdities has the power to make you commit injustices: For a life of every being full with peace and kindness, including diversity and freedom. Capitalism is destroying our minds, the planet itself and the universe in the end!

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Being believable means also to question yourself, every time and every day again. Why this unbelievable hatred within the societies all over the world? Why antisemitism, sexism, ableism, racism, speciesism, classism and so much more? Why to move the own responsibility towards some outer world "beings"? God(s) made you do cruel deeds? Come on, no that's not true. We are all responsible on our own. We do cruel things, because we want that to happen. So better question that for sure and not start alone with pointing towards others. Emancipation is needed, in every part, if we ever want another vision and story to happen besides hatred and unbelievable cruelties in whatever name.

Human being in favor with clear principles and so also for freedom in soft- and hardware!

Certainly anyone who has the power to make you believe absurdities has the power to make you commit injustices: For a life of every being full with peace and kindness, including diversity and freedom. Capitalism is destroying our minds, the planet itself and the universe in the end!

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So-called "freedom activists" using unfree services like Twitter for their essential communication. But hey: They wish to use better ActivityPub-implementations, because ... well? Those platforms and networks enrich life and communication so much. How did we ever survived without the knowledge that someone else is bored and share some questionable meme-pictures? Come on, people: Please read again those postings and shared views. And afterwards tell me that this is only some abstract illusion or bad nightmare for sure. And what happens with the people not interested to participate with this absolute emotion-show, but want to support and help with tests? Oh nice, they don't even get to read more about release-schedules for example about Libreboot: https://nitter.namazso.eu/n4of7/status/ … 13648900#m

Because of what? Yes, Twitter to be used for central communication instead the project-page itself. wink
Okay, and then we create even more projects to circumvent and use unfree services like YouTube or make just a copy with so-called alternatives like "PeerTube". Internet is about sharing these days and please share more data as there is need for even more servers (bitter sarcasm included). You even recognize on how those so-called alternatives have done some part of vendor-lockins? And where is the difference? Oh how "cool" is that, a free platform, but to participate I have to create an account on Diaspora, Mastodon or whatever. And then what? Doing more or less the same as on Facebook, Twitter or whatever. How "cool", more absolute emphasized hatred, questionable imagery and more. But hey: Communication is key. With even that part I'd say "yes" as we need to communicate, but not only with our digital "alter ego" and play with that. A believable communication looks for sure different. And to say that somebody is not existing because nothing is to be found "online": What kind of dystopian perspective is this?

Nobody had a shout for YouTube once, but now many cannot even think not using it. And with all of those services the web is going down. But for that we have organizations like the FSF telling us about DRM. Yes, for sure is all a generic problem. But you see the point? How much cost and you never touch again those services or search for the next ultimate browser delivering all you want and be the multimedia-central? We play with fire and it is for sure getting out of control, long ago. We only react or copy known paradigms instead try absolutely NOT to go in that direction. But okay: Tell me more about enrichment for my life and making myself to some machinery only delivering data. In the end there is no difference if the service is free or unfree. With federated data for example you only need one instance sharing with others and getting the information. Oh you can block that, but what about the next 100 instances to come? Or the next 1000? What about the services becoming important enough so centralized platforms like Twitter implement also ActivityPub? Okay, again with blocking. But you should be aware that thoughts can be different and therefore you should be ready to also block every other instance NOT blocking Twitter for example. And I have not even mentioned that Diaspora has the APIs implemented and Mastodon has options for that. A brave new world awaits and we all can see that. But it is more about the visions from Aldous Huxley for example: The individual does not even count within that machinery, only data. You don't want to participate? No problem, at one point you will have to do that, because others have taken away your choice. No I'm not talking about some "evil groups", that's just imagination and non-existant: The "others" are just the other members of the global society itself. big_smile
But go further with copying the known, because it is "cool to like". Oh and before I forget this point: Many participants within those anti-social platforms (calling them "networks" or "social" is not fitting and a bad joke) think they read just some little notes and going to be experts in politics, pandemic, science in general and even more. True enrichment, isn't it? No, because just reading some article on the internet does not change anything. But hey: People tend to "communicate" everything there. Besides that's the reasoning I completely deny the usage for example of this "new" Libreboot. Just because of personal interests the democratic organization of that project was removed. And now what? A new release? The circle is closing here: No new release until now, but some kind of "testing" being near about "stable". As I've said with bitter sarcasm: Truely enrichment and while people go ahead with sharing daily routines, make fun with their political positions (which some can be called pure hatred also) our world is in flames. Go ahead, going to be warm, but not nice and comfy. roll

And what those "freedom-activists" want is nothing more than "domination of freedom": Sounds good? Perhaps, but the outcome is? For sure this sounds like emancipation. But then what? You think going tribal per definition is good? Not working together and instead everyone is the own little "ruling person" makes freedom ultimate? Think again, because you have a problem within this thought: The human nature itself. But okay, we can wait a little longer for the next Libreboot because there should be a PeerTube-instance (https://nitter.namazso.eu/n4of7/status/ … 63796992#m) and some Gitlab-instance also. And about those other projects? Ah well, the compiling works that great I can do it here with Hyperbola .. wait, wrong project. Compiling Libreboot is NOT working: No gettext, no sudo and many other parts missing. Yes, this could be fixed in some way. But what about other payloads like Tianacore? The download is not working correct. That's all part of the same: Instead telling the world some stories, we could focus. Instead of going for insane big dreams turning later for sure into nightmares, we should look out for peers sharing with. And then there is no matter if there is no stable release or not. Help and support for technical independent tryouts, coming back for group-working. When we look onto whole nations the proposed concept ends up with pure nationalism. As mentioned earlier here: Not nice and comfy warm, should we play again that bad game "mine is better than yours"? We all know what this is called onto the perspective of a nation: That's war. Cannot believe people go for this again and again, repeating history and thinking to make anything better.

Human being in favor with clear principles and so also for freedom in soft- and hardware!

Certainly anyone who has the power to make you believe absurdities has the power to make you commit injustices: For a life of every being full with peace and kindness, including diversity and freedom. Capitalism is destroying our minds, the planet itself and the universe in the end!

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Ah, before I forget that as this is also directly related towards some really strange insights: Please don't use the word "democracy" any longer, if you think this is just a word to be used for YOUR interests or some interests YOU identify with your nation, personality or whatever. Same reasoning: No, any kind of democratic discourse is not here to bring up only you or people you like the best living-conditions. Democracy is a value to be in discussions on every day. Especially when I read about politicians leaving some reasoned decisions being done just to get acceptance: You know that we don't come further all alone, but you react only egocentric. You are doing harm for all others as you just ignore every reasoning for climate, for peace, for health of beings. And you call that kind of ignorance "democratic"? Okay, think again. There are bunch of other words to describe that, but "democracy" is for sure not the one, demagogues! wink

Human being in favor with clear principles and so also for freedom in soft- and hardware!

Certainly anyone who has the power to make you believe absurdities has the power to make you commit injustices: For a life of every being full with peace and kindness, including diversity and freedom. Capitalism is destroying our minds, the planet itself and the universe in the end!

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What kind of literal crap neoliberalism is? You can see it on a daily base, especially now when people are forced to ignore all reasonable parts for solidarity and empathy as they need to keep their jobs. Otherwise companies will handle against them and that to say on a global base: No company is giving any kind of present just because they think to do something "good". For sure there is nothing evil to be found also, the problems are just quite deeper because we all are part of this system, of the capitalism. And the capitalism is just understanding one sentence: Make more money, just more.

That's the whole "magic" and reasoning in general. Yes, it is shortened by me for now but for this reasoning we go against everything within this pandemic and ignore all reasonable scientific aspects. For sure there is more, but I just describe now the generic meaning for people enforced to go outside with no possibility of more protection. And who is taking responsibility when those people are infected? Ending in hospitals? The politicians? The companies? The society? No one, just is the responsibility marked for "own part". How can any individual fight this pressure, just to protect others? In the end those individuals are even punished: Companies just do their parts, politics ignore their calls and society marks them being "strange" or "to frightened". And now what? We are not even near the ending of this situation and it is getting even worse. Everything is thrown away just because of the capitalistic viewpoints, everything is forgotten because of neoliberalism and science is ignored because of "freedom". We will pay a bitter price for all of that once as we are doing that even now! We are living lies and we are told lies when somebody notes nothing can happen in this concurrent situation. What is the reasoning for companies in general? Just to get money, there is no understatement for empathy or ethics. But society fails also to position against all that injustices. The best way we have is science and research, but even that we don't hear now and ignore all the cryouts worldwide for fair handles, for vaccinations and treatments. You have more money? No problem, you can get help, but please sign that paper before because of our "patents" and "copyright". Lifes are compared to that and considered in the end as not so "meaningful". sad

We call it other way today, but it is nothing more than plundering life and throwing away the rights of people. You think you can make any kind of "career"? Okay, nice illusions. Sorry, but reality looks a bit different, quite a bit. And for now to note also ending those dark thoughts: We need to turn back from that. Where is room and place to discuss other ways for democracy, empathy and solidarity for ALL beings? Just to make cutoff with all this greed for power and more. And for sure any kind of revolution also won't help, learning from history and not repeating it endless. With some hope for the future in any way.

Human being in favor with clear principles and so also for freedom in soft- and hardware!

Certainly anyone who has the power to make you believe absurdities has the power to make you commit injustices: For a life of every being full with peace and kindness, including diversity and freedom. Capitalism is destroying our minds, the planet itself and the universe in the end!

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throgh wrote:

Being believable means also to question yourself, every time and every day again. Why this unbelievable hatred within the societies all over the world? Why antisemitism, sexism, ableism, racism, speciesism, classism and so much more? Why to move the own responsibility towards some outer world "beings"? God(s) made you do cruel deeds? Come on, no that's not true. We are all responsible on our own. We do cruel things, because we want that to happen. So better question that for sure and not start alone with pointing towards others. Emancipation is needed, in every part, if we ever want another vision and story to happen besides hatred and unbelievable cruelties in whatever name.


When people try to be their own God, they only succeed in being a devil...

With all this evil in the world, in any of those forms, you can be sure, even if you don't think there is a God, that there most certainly is a devil out there pulling their strings hidden within the world...

But yes, we are responsible for not giving into him, thus if we fall for it, we are immensely guilty.

I yearn for this extremism to be corrected so badly right now.

I am sure it will happen to the people who are causing the problems eventually, but it ain't happening soon enough for me...

Meh...  just gotta do what I can do and leave the rest to my Lord and the rest of the world's good people who follow him indirectly or directly.

HyperbolaBSD: The Future of Secure Libre Lightweight Operating Systems!

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I think we can call that for sure fanatism and it is coming in various flavors. The major issue is that many people seems giving their responsibilities away, believing in some kind of weird theories. But that was always part of human history: The issue we are onto now is loosing democratic and humanistic values. But it would for sure lead to just other parts of the discussion on this point. I can state that I believe in the good handle and the same time about criticism. Are my actions leading to something even more problematic? And I should always have a look for others, because I'm for sure not important alone. All beings are important! smile

But we also have to recognize that it is very complicated to get over problematic views hardened for centuries. So at best: Some of us have more privileges, use them to protect others having them not. Perhaps a good starting point.

Human being in favor with clear principles and so also for freedom in soft- and hardware!

Certainly anyone who has the power to make you believe absurdities has the power to make you commit injustices: For a life of every being full with peace and kindness, including diversity and freedom. Capitalism is destroying our minds, the planet itself and the universe in the end!

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Everybody has to find the literal "moral compass". You think the phrase "eat the rich" is fitting? Okay, think about consequences and what can be made out of this. Yes, this whole thread is about fairness and empathy. Finding that in unfairness sounds quite strange, but this is not about that now. It is about protecting the life itself. What do we become when we do monstrous deeds? Please think before doing because that as no game.

Human being in favor with clear principles and so also for freedom in soft- and hardware!

Certainly anyone who has the power to make you believe absurdities has the power to make you commit injustices: For a life of every being full with peace and kindness, including diversity and freedom. Capitalism is destroying our minds, the planet itself and the universe in the end!

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To be fair is important, but also to recognize basic problems instead of following names blind and without any doubt. So you think the FSF and Richard Stallman are without doubts? Without any problems? Think again: Was it democratic based to bring back a person stepped down from positions? Yes to have the ideas from Richard Stallman and respecing them, but that would have been possible also without going back into positions. And what next on a social side? The FSF brought him back instead he is focussing again on absolute needed parts we have now the known problems: Preaching something the reality has not. Or do we have the freedom of choice? Are there not problems enough on the technical side? We have more and more projects going the "open-source"-way, making some foul compromises. More companies making contracts with projects and so getting influence. Just to name some: Audacity? Blender? There are enough questionable frameworks around made mandatory instead of being optional: systemd, pulseaudio, dbus, avahi und more? Projects directly from the GNU-project being a problem in respect of licensing or mixing problems within: Rust? Mono? Java?

But hey: Richard Stallman is back and now everything is "okay"? No, nothing is "okay", because following only blind ideas won't help. The FSF has overseen problems right away and talking with Microsoft seems more important than talking about problems already mentioned. Being believable is about talking problems, not about some illusions or marketing-ideas. Join what exactly? Projects like Hyperbola don't get more support from that. But personally it is also better not having the mass of people here, because that is one dedicated problem now and stay that way.

And I have enough to read those endless discussions where people think being personally attacked because others bring up problems or describe situations where the so-called "heroes" and "persons of interests" have failed. You think others have to solve that? Solve it by yourself and stop following only role-models. Think about ideas instead of think who can solve something on a greater level or do you want to give your own responsibility everytime away? Projects like Hyperbola live out from people working on them, not only talking about them. Better to have a small group working, instead of a great mass talking and discussing only. The reasoning is easy: Solutions can come with working, not only with talking. wink

In the end: Just following some names and persons because others do it does not make you something "free". Just to use something marked as "free" or others say so, does not make you "free" or emancipate anyone. And it is all about technical emancipation. We have problems at many points: The bloated Linux-only frameworks (without GNU)? Many bloated projects themself without freedom of choice? And people don't recognize the problems ahead within complicated structures in their own systems. But hey, if you want to follow some hierarchies? Feel free to do so, but this won't help.

Human being in favor with clear principles and so also for freedom in soft- and hardware!

Certainly anyone who has the power to make you believe absurdities has the power to make you commit injustices: For a life of every being full with peace and kindness, including diversity and freedom. Capitalism is destroying our minds, the planet itself and the universe in the end!