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Topic: Newer Libreboot?

thegoat wrote:

My first real install of Hyperbola GNU w/ Linux is now on my Thinkpad x60 (i686) with Coreboot 4.18 (+microcode).  smile

I recommend using libreboot's latest stable on it if you can. Then you can do all sorts of stuff better. Not to mention other enhancements including battery life gain.

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Re: Newer Libreboot?

zapper wrote:
thegoat wrote:

My first real install of Hyperbola GNU w/ Linux is now on my Thinkpad x60 (i686) with Coreboot 4.18 (+microcode).  smile

I recommend using libreboot's latest stable on it if you can. Then you can do all sorts of stuff better. Not to mention other enhancements including battery life gain.

I think Libreboot now has non-free software in it.

https://web.archive.org/web/20231101164 … olicy.html

That is why GNU Boot and Canoeboot were made, I think, to have fully "free as in freedom" boot software/firmware instead of firmware with binary blobs in it.

https://www.gnu.org/software/gnuboot/web/

https://canoeboot.org/

I do not know if Libreboot has licenses that forbid reverse engineering or just has binary blobs in it, though that could still be a problem for freedom.

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Re: Newer Libreboot?

Other_Cody wrote:
zapper wrote:
thegoat wrote:

My first real install of Hyperbola GNU w/ Linux is now on my Thinkpad x60 (i686) with Coreboot 4.18 (+microcode).  smile

I recommend using libreboot's latest stable on it if you can. Then you can do all sorts of stuff better. Not to mention other enhancements including battery life gain.

I think Libreboot now has non-free software in it.

https://web.archive.org/web/20231101164 … olicy.html

That is why GNU Boot and Canoeboot were made, I think, to have fully "free as in freedom" boot software/firmware instead of firmware with binary blobs in it.

https://www.gnu.org/software/gnuboot/web/

https://canoeboot.org/

I do not know if Libreboot has licenses that forbid reverse engineering or just has binary blobs in it, though that could still be a problem for freedom.

Depends whether you find security/privacy/features more important, or some weird idea of what freedom is. Both have blobs in them truthfully, libreboot's current just is less of a lie.

Respects your freedom? Not possible.

Respects your privacy? Definitely possible depending on hardware

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Re: Newer Libreboot?

There is NO weird idea of freedom to demand that the used BIOS uses as less blobs as possible, zapper.
And please do not use Leah's disrespecting lines here. It is okay if you like to follow her perspective, but it is her perspective and it has clear flaws.

A closed blob is NOT possible to research and also NOT possible to audit. Here flaws and failures are starting. And the original idea of Libreboot was to offer a blobless Coreboot with further optimization. Look behind the curtain: There is no difference now between Coreboot and Libreboot. And that "Canoeboot" is another bad move done because out of whatever kind of perspective and missing acceptance for GNU Boot. If you like to follow a Libreboot missing its original statement? That's yours, zapper. But there is no weird idea within to have a real BIOS-firmware without blobs.

There is no issue with using Libreboot, Heads, Skulls or Coreboot in the end. But Libreboot fails its previous statement complete and that's the point. Using the current Libreboot, you can also build your own Coreboot, no difference.

Done a split and closed: All of that was and is off-topic about what machine to be used with what kind of BIOS-firmware.

Human being in favor with clear principles and so also for freedom in soft- and hardware!

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