Hello
I would like to donate to Hyperbola Project. I don't know much about this stuff. Please tell me how to convert my cash to Monero so that it is anonymous and through ethical services and then make a donation. And also how to convert Monero  to Bitcoin. There are many videos on invidious , but I wanted to ask the community not to repeat the mistakes of others. Thanks in advance for your help.

Due to lack of technical knowledge and work/family life, I cannot contribute my time to this wonderful and full of prospect project. But I can contribute financially instead. Hyperbola is crucial, to have a fully free and completely indepentent OS.

Other projects, like Linux foundation, FreeBSD and OpenBsd, unfortunatelly recieve financially support from big tech (Google, Facebook, Microsoft). Not hyperbola.  We need to keep their greedy hands as far away as possible. Their money are toxic.

As I have just signed for montly payment, I urge more people to do so. People have the power!!!

Thanks for donating!

Just to inform all that we won't receive funding from NLnet Foundation. The reasoning is therefore to be called:

Please be also aware that we are not giving up anything or are for sure angry therefore. So the point is not that anyone here needs to be angry at the mentioned foundation. Frustration? Okay, that's for sure a common point and understanding. Nevertheless: There will be a way forward and therefore to remember that all is counting. Every little donation, every kind of support. If you want something be faster working, well give a helping hand. Testing? Yes, needed. Support within the wiki and documentation? Of course. You just need to raise a hand and give some people of the team a sign. We are there and you can contact us throughout the forum, IRC, Tox or some way else.

Well, we have done what we can. We have prepared good enough in our perspective, added a concrete roadmap for HyperbolaBSD in special and also for the recurring Hyperbola GNU/Linux-libre. But so it is: They have decided elsewhere. In the end it is for sure frustration, but we won't give up. So we will be doing it on other roads. But nevertheless we don't get lost from our roadmap.

The Hyperbola-Project has brought concrete points even now to the public and has created four stable versions until today. People waiting for some release in the future and than telling us to donate should rethink about the concept of donations (not meaning and / or relying towards you, zapper).

We need support at any time: Financial support is one. But there are also different others: Testing, developing, bringing up ideas, infrastructure and administration, documentation and more. So supporting now is a concept to bring up also HyperbolaBSD faster. We understand for sure that we all are in hard times. But every cent is counting and also every idea, every line of code, every line of documentation. Only wanting to donate if this package or that version is in the view will result in the opposite direction of what the wording donation is meant for and interest climbing brings up also some more questionable thoughts again. So to state clear: Hyperbola-Project is meant lightweight, is meant also with edges. We are not supporting convinience when not made up from the ground with clear free, lightweight and libre software. Using bloated frameworks and so many dependencies just for some convinience will be also in the future not getting a warm "welcome" here, people.

Technical emancipation is not to reach with that. And that was and is the point! Waiting for some interest to come? Won't happen at all, because that is for sure completely arrogant in the review of all what was done until today. If we throw away concrete values for more public interest we will reach out nothing. So it is better to have a small system, but functional. Not that many architectures, not that many packages and more. But all a concrete point to build on top. The alternative is all in all the known problem why we are at this point. And we are for sure working on "making it easier". But the question is also: Why do we need to bother when people don't really care enough even today? It is not that complicated to understand, attend and build. There is one point needed: Time for reading and understanding. If people don't want that (and now we are back at what I have written about "convinience"), no one can help here. That's also the point: You cannot make something "easier" which is just plain logic.

We won't bring back bloated frameworks as they were removed for a reasoning, we won't establish questionable packages and we are in search for lightweight packages. That's all done for a reason and we have for sure not any kind of problem if people don't want all of that: There are enough other systems. But the point is just that: Donating is done throughout multiple ways. A helping hand is needed all-time and everyone is taking the time for explanations and discussions onto ideas. Money is one point. But throwing only money on top of something is not the final idea: It is a start to establish and preserve the infrastructure. There are people and creative minds needed to get more into. And free soft- and hardware is either done throughout altruistic engagement or otherwise failing further at a point when it comes only to the money: At one point talks about "copyright" are coming back and we rely onto a social contract in the opposite as Hyperbola is and will always be a community-driven project! It is as it is and giving way more room for searching money is the wrong point when seen alone. We would be onto the same point where others reside like the known "where would we all have been without the companies". The answer could be: Way better at a point as corporate "open-source" and more is only a toxic present.

And there were different tryouts until today to "make it easier" for people to attend and publish. The last one to remember was to test new window-managers being included as the not working replacements. But coming back towards to donations and support:

- Interest to attend within documentation?
- Interest to attend into testing?
- Interest to attend into further development?

Generic support with amounts of money for keeping up the infrastructure is also good. But there are seriously enough ways to attend and publish, easy enough with wide amount of possible discussion and integration. Just one thing: Speaking with each other and communication is key. If there is interest in Hyperbola as project, donation can be done right now without any waiting-time. 0.4 is there and 0.4.1 is coming soon enough. No waiting needed!

Please stay on-topic as this thread is about donations for Hyperbola and not about "person has to say something in the global network", there are enough individuals and / or groups. This is not helpful for us here especially but you can post that in another thread or fitting topic - no problem about that. Thank you!

The point is: The global network is full with different opinions. No problem in the first place as it is the retrospective which makes us thinking and approving on points we need for sure - otherwise we cannot stand up for democratic values. But some people underestimate the strange game called "mine is better than yours" like the blog-author: It would be easy to approve major points of his wrong like "Linux is influenced with corporate interests" ... yes, and FreeBSD is getting support directly also or is the base of different projects from companies never giving anything directly back or sharing (to call some out: Sony and Netflix). They are even proud to be mentioned.

The reasoning is therefore easy to leave those grounds immediately as nothing "good" is resulting and "endless competition" has brought nothing more good as many people take it serious enough for doing so harmful things ... they would be better in leaving that for good. We can see clearly today that resulting problems on the planet have direct connections to that thinking and it won't get better as those beliefs also always count in "loosing grounds". Nothing to play with, nothing to wave away: "Loosing" on that scale means suffering for earthlings and surely deaths. Not acceptable! Therefore Hyperbola is playing in different regions, especially for this type. No interest in competition and the project has main interest in reasonable alternatives, inclusion and emancipation of all wanting that.

Well, soon enough HyperbolaBSD is part of that and we will see about many things.
Also to mention therefore our focus.

I am in the mood of doing a new donation to Hyperbola. Is the wire transfer method still available? I know that the bank details at the website are not updated anymore, so I requested the updated information to Emulatorman and also donate@hyperbola.info. But until no answer.

https://wiki.hyperbola.info/doku.php?id … _transfers bank transfer details work