@nparafe: Your post is tasty *logging in for replying*
nparafe wrote: throgh wrote:
....But our social values break into pieces nowadays and that's just because too few of us look for each other.
There is the matter of choice, but there is also the dominant social construct in which we now live. I find myself wondering which is the most critical. Is it us people not interested or without solidarity, or does the construct (meaning the social-economical status quo) have succeeded in making it extremely difficult for us?
On root level, there is just one question: Greed or compassion. Everything else is just a spin-off of this struggle between these opposing forces. And we humans are just play balls between them.
Egoism puts you into the center, solidarity puts us into the center - not just you. People in ego-mode, that's just the consequence of greed putting so much pressure on them in multiple ways, that their basic stress level is high. And that changes stuff in our brain for the bad, infects us with greed.
Currently, greed - the root of all evil - has the upper hand in society; that's why most defaults are bad.
Switching a default from bad to good, that is a crucial step for team compassion, but no default stripes
off responsibility off every single one of us.
At the end of the day, we build up the world with every single detail of our lifestyle and have freedom of choice.
The people here have gathered, because in dealing with computers they've deliberately chosen, want more libre computing.
Usually I tend to blame the ones that have more power and control. In the case of YouTube, Facebook, etc, I believe that they are the ones that we need to criticise way more than the users of those platforms.
Having said that, I also believe that if we, the free software activists who try to understand and expose the full depth of the asymmetric control that these platforms have to manipulate humanity, we also use this platforms, even in order to show that they are bad for democracy, we somehow make them more legit. People will say, look, even free software people use YouTube so there isn’t an alternative.
And this is not only a thing in technology. This is also true for human rights, politics, climate activists etc.
Exactly! The law of attention in full swing. Or as Friedrich Nietzsche put it in words: 'The deeper you look into the abyss, the deeper the abyss looks into you.'
Whatever we focus our attention on, will get stronger. That's why Trump got president - his biggest competition, Hilary Clinton, was his biggest cheerleader, leaving out no opportunity to talk about Trump extensively.
That's why we libre computing advocates are well-adviced to build up our own game, reconstructing our broken digital world by a fully new model, the 'libre variation'. Focus on the good, and the good gets stronger; focus on the bad, and the bad gets stronger.
That's one of the reasons why net politics activists are constantly loosing: They are always defending against the bad, reacting to the bad, but completely fail in building up the good they want to see on its own. Instead of being the change they want to see they make their very existence depend on the bad just as 'anti-capitalists' do. What do 'anti-capitalists' do, when there existence corner stone 'capitalism' breaks away? What are they then? What have they then?
FSF - it has done a lot good. But it also focuses too much on the bad meanwhile. Going well beyond simply focusing on the bad for explaining the situation.
Some people say, there is no time. We need to act now and use all the means we have, mass media, twitter etc. I can see their point and so I try not to judge them. They do the way they feel and I do they I feel. Maybe both paths can cross somehow someday...?
It's tricky. I see your point. To a certain degree, indeed, the main thing is, that we do anything for the better, using all means at hand. That's a key ingredient for accessibility of our endeavor. But on the other had basically applies: The more conclusive, logical consistent we act, the more efficient we work towards our goal - here in this case of a libre digital world.
But the more we do it, the more we make ourselves hard to access for average people - in our case by becoming very tech-savy, building up a digital divide.
Finally, the solution, the reconcillation probably is the path FSF hit recently:
Democratizing the personal journey of becoming a libre computing activist in the long run over a lot of small stepping stones, gradually, recognizing that noone of us fell of the sky as a Richard Stallman, encouraging development. Not letting 'good' be the enemy of 'better'.
To swing more into the point: Using Youtube for getting people away from Youtube? Yes, that's constructive, but let's also make sure, mirror our content, on a libre platform and set soft incentives on Youtube to rather chose to use this libre platform for accessing our content. That set up is open, no echo chamber, but at the same time triggering a stream to the better - among others a better default.
Undertone: Yes, free/libre computing activism, animal rights, human rights, climate activism - all that and similar stuff shares the same basis: Compassion. Is one team: 'Team compassion'. And the more we understand that and play together by living compassion consecutively, logically consistent in this universal, broad sense, the stronger we get.
2 examples: Placing net politics flyers on an animal rights info booth, and placing animal rights flyers on a hacker space - that makes totally sense.
This cross-section event 'Bits and Bäume' - 'Bits and Trees', a meet up of net politics community and climate activism community, talking with each other, figuring out to work together, that totally makes sense.