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Topic: What's the lightest desktop environment?

Just a simple question.

What's the lightest desktop environment available for Hyperbola Linux (and soon BSD),
in terms of resource usage (CPU, RAM, etc.)?

At the moment, I'm convinced IceWM is the lightest but I wonder if there's anything else that's even lighter?

Thanks.

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Re: What's the lightest desktop environment?

You can try jwm or dwm. smile

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Re: What's the lightest desktop environment?

burhen42 wrote:

Just a simple question.

What's the lightest desktop environment available for Hyperbola Linux (and soon BSD),
in terms of resource usage (CPU, RAM, etc.)?

At the moment, I'm convinced IceWM is the lightest but I wonder if there's anything else that's even lighter?

Thanks.

Hmm... the lightest window manager might be dwm, the most usable that has a bar for time, date, etc... is i3-wm.
As for desktop environment, that would be lumina desktop.    Hands down.

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Re: What's the lightest desktop environment?

dwm? Guess I'll go for that then.

https://www.slant.co/options/1289/~dwm-review
Although according to the Slant review, it depends on X11 only and Hypberola is ditching it in favor of Xenocara, right?

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Re: What's the lightest desktop environment?

burhen42 wrote:

dwm? Guess I'll go for that then.

https://www.slant.co/options/1289/~dwm-review
Although according to the Slant review, it depends on X11 only and Hypberola is ditching it in favor of Xenocara, right?

Xenocara is an implementation for the X-server and in usage since version 0.3 of Hyperbola. dwm should be functional without any further problems as it is also on OpenBSD (looking here: https://ftp.halifax.rwth-aachen.de/pub/ … s/amd64/). wink

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Re: What's the lightest desktop environment?

if you ask about lightest DE then it is LXDE
if you ask about lightest WM the answer is obvious: plain X11 (twm)
if you ask about lightest minimal WM maybe it is dwm
if you ask about lightest usable WM i think it is jwm
if you ask about lightest full featured WM in hyperbola i would recommend icewm

https://i.postimg.cc/VJbkCGZz/ss2.png
https://i.postimg.cc/TyMYqVBg/ss4-000.png

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Re: What's the lightest desktop environment?

dikasp2 wrote:

if you ask about lightest WM the answer is obvious: plain X11 (twm)

i would say (cwm) is the lightest WM >> calm window manager

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Re: What's the lightest desktop environment?

vanilla twm + one xterm = 155 mb
vanilla cwm + one xterm = 135 mb

yep, we have a new winner but minus the titlebar function

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Re: What's the lightest desktop environment?

dikasp2 wrote:

vanilla twm + one xterm = 155 mb
vanilla cwm + one xterm = 135 mb

yep, we have a new winner but minus the titlebar function

I have been liking that approach too, cwm + xterm.  I found the following link showing how to use xterm to make a status bar in cwm.

https://www.tumfatig.net/20200923/a-sim … r-for-cwm/

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Re: What's the lightest desktop environment?

pigeon123 wrote:

I have been liking that approach too, cwm + xterm.  I found the following link showing how to use xterm to make a status bar in cwm.

https://www.tumfatig.net/20200923/a-sim … r-for-cwm/

Interesting, thanks for the link. I have here an installation with JWM and nevertheless it is also important what is running. Hyperbola with JWM installed, compton as compositor and without dbus is just at 118M after the startup. Of course: No further desktop-management and just a little wallpaper-change with

hsetroot

Listing of processes running:

jwm
tilda
compton
cbatticon
dhcpcd-gtk
volumeicon
(bash, scripting for named above with hsetroot)

Installation itself is 32bit as the ThinkPad X60s has no support for 64bit-environments. wink
Also to mention: 32bit is not to compare with 64bit itself. The same environment with same basics would need more RAM exactly on a 64bit-system.

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Re: What's the lightest desktop environment?

200mb is about my use with dmenu and the basics of i3-wm + dmenu, i3statusbar, a python script for locking laptop after duration, killing touchpad when i boot into i3-wm type python script

I also use console-tdm and use redshift, without the geoclue thing I might add... tongue

Also, tlp is running and a few other minor things on Hyperbola.

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Re: What's the lightest desktop environment?

My current RAM usage with i3:

12.7 MB for i3wm
10.2 MB for i3 status bar

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Re: What's the lightest desktop environment?

Mesh Malachi wrote:

My current RAM usage with i3:

12.7 MB for i3wm
10.2 MB for i3 status bar


I  have been using jwm recently, the latest version, with some small changes... and am using less ram lately, but jwm is not for the faint of heart,  be warned.

I learned how to autostart stuff with it. it seems to be lighter even than i3. Ironic though... heh.

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Re: What's the lightest desktop environment?

zapper wrote:
Mesh Malachi wrote:

My current RAM usage with i3:

12.7 MB for i3wm
10.2 MB for i3 status bar


I  have been using jwm recently, the latest version, with some small changes... and am using less ram lately, but jwm is not for the faint of heart,  be warned.

I learned how to autostart stuff with it. it seems to be lighter even than i3. Ironic though... heh.

Perhaps sorting more out: Do you miss something? Helping hand and discovering already more about JWM. smile

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Re: What's the lightest desktop environment?

throgh wrote:
zapper wrote:
Mesh Malachi wrote:

My current RAM usage with i3:

12.7 MB for i3wm
10.2 MB for i3 status bar


I  have been using jwm recently, the latest version, with some small changes... and am using less ram lately, but jwm is not for the faint of heart,  be warned.

I learned how to autostart stuff with it. it seems to be lighter even than i3. Ironic though... heh.

Perhaps sorting more out: Do you miss something? Helping hand and discovering already more about JWM. smile

Well, I have a config I can upload for you all if you are interested, but, LOOK AT IT, before you USE it! tongue

https://upload.disroot.org/r/t692B5a7#9 … rEkYJ0i9U=

this is my jwm config more or less. smile

aka, some applications are required in order to use this effectively, sakura and pcmanfm for starters I mean. smile

ALT  + s opens sakura
ALT + m opens pcmanfm

incidentally, my current config uses 10-20 less mb to use jwm with it. smile

And it uses slightly less cpu power too. in my experience.

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Re: What's the lightest desktop environment?

Thanks, zapper! Will check the configuration and upload mine also later. smile

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