Well, if there is interest? For sure. But nevertheless we had our own contact with parts of the GNU-project and foremost there was no further interest into Hyperbola at that time. Personally I don't know how to add Hyperbola to those listings, besides: Hyperbola is recognized as system following the FSDG, but not being part of GNU at all and with HyperbolaBSD we will leave those spaces for sure further. We will for sure have GNU included partwise and we will also follow the FSDG on-going with free culture included, but based on own implementation and complete different.

And I don't see the point in general: Yes, it would bring people here. But I don't think it is complicated to have a search for Hyperbola as project. When searching for systems without systemd you will find us for sure at once. Remember also that we have and had enough work to explain why we removed Linux-only frameworks and did a complete rework. With more people coming, there will be again more discussions if we could integrate this or that library, use this or that framework and when we ask if there is interest in support and porting we only see a big cloud of dust risind then. It is hard work to be done, not easy as many projects get more and more on wrong lines and we have much work removing non-free parts or complicated dependencies.

I also see those "services" reporting back "new versions and releases" as kind of double-sided: On the one hand it is nice to know about new releases, but on the other hand this is exactly the problem free culture and soft- / hardware has. People are just oriented onto convinience instead of participating within projects and communities nowadays. If some system is no longer needed or is falling into mistrust? Okay, change the system and make a switch to another one. So in the end projects get attention and then falling into ignorance because something is not fitting for the masses. Yes, I generalize here for sure and ignore the people oriented on communities. Nevertheless I see that as a big problem and also a point why it is so easy for "corporate interests" to take over with false promises. We see the examples like snort - and we have tried to use it for sure, impossible without reasonable filters and listings, which are commercial only.

The question is: Are we personally ready to discuss in repeat with more people if dbus is bloatware and useless or bringing back bluetooth-support? The problem is not the discussion: It is the point that people want to make Hyperbola just to "systemd-less distribution". Yes, it was once on that part and way. But nowadays Hyperbola as project has gone beyond that point as there are different points identified. Discussions and reflections are for sure helpful, but I have reasonable doubts that bringing up Hyperbola into the GNU-context makes more outcome. Especially because we are not part of it first and second people have expectations when we go with that.

And I don't think we need to fulfill even more expectations. We want the same: Free culture, free information and secure, stable system. But the ways chosen are quite different - we want the same but are not the same. If it is easy to bind the news into the mentioned websites? Okay. I will definitely bring the point to the team for sure. No way besides. But my criticism stands! And not to name: With the migration to HyperbolaBSD we would be thrown out immediately. So it is not "GNU Hyperbola" it is and always was just "Hyperbola" - yes for now with GNU/Linux-libre and surroundings.

A release is a release and the need for promotions is exactly one major problem in our times: People await more marketing instead of clearly done parts standing on their own. Strange days!

HyperTalking is not part of this thread, so I spare that point here out. If you have questions about that point, please be so kind: https://forums.hyperbola.info/viewtopic.php?id=656

I see it on that point for sure pragmatic in the first place - besides the idealist side is always part with me. I hope my criticism is not correct as it is better to be the "grumbling bear" being too cautious instead of being right with missing trust. I have brought already the point to the team and we will for sure talk about this. Perhaps we can bring up attention about the issues mentioned and people can take action. Even though there are some thoughts already with gcc-rust for example. Hope is always there!