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Topic: What web browser do you use?

I admit that it is getting harder to function on the desktop.
More and more pages do not want to display.
I use iceweasel but it's hard, Iceape is practically the same. (e.g. recently Protonmail has stopped working)
Badwolf displays more pages, but it lacks a lot of functionality.

So what browser do you use?

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Re: What web browser do you use?

A webbrowser should display and render HTML-scripted webpages, nothing more. So in fact the same: Iceweasel-UXP foremost, Iceape-UXP and Bad Wolf. Sufficient so far and if the "network" is going more crazy as it is today, I will stop using even more. I do not need a "multimedia-central" with even more dependencies on my system.

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Re: What web browser do you use?

You are right, but it leads to a blind street, an operating system with a working desktop, must have an efficient browser.
I just suggest that it could be useful to refresh iceweasel.

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Re: What web browser do you use?

That is not that easy as it sounds: First of all the UXP-framework is not building on 32bit as they use a very inefficient and memory-consuming build-system and second no UXP-application is here at Hyperbola done directly by us. So Luke can only help here: https://pagure.io/iceweasel-uxp

Furthermore the more newer version, the more possible problems go into the package for the webbrowser. Hyperbola is a minimalist system and therefore we would even go that far to remove a package before its dependencies go out of hands. That leaves a functional and efficient system and that is our goal.

For Hyperbola GNU/Linux-libre there is no timeline at this current moment to upgrade the UXP-applications. for HyperbolaBSD there is porting in the making. But again: 32bit is not that easy. And that shows how inefficent and respectless some applications and projects act today - relied towards UXP and Mozilla in generic also for their Rust-effort.

An operating-system must have to work in the meanings of the user and in the hands of the user, this is excluding a webbrowser when it is a high security-risk and not efficient fullfilling only the basics: Rendering HTML-pages, as said not more. A webbrowser is an optional application. But if the community has an idea to update UXP (32bit / 64bit) or some other solution? Exactly that is now the time after 0.4.3.

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Re: What web browser do you use?

Advice if anyone uses any XUL based web browser, add modify http response and put these filters in the filter fox:

[["/^/",["/^\\/assets\\/browser-detect-/",["/.*/g",""]],["/^\\/assets\\/discourse-[0-9a-f]{4}/",["(.d-modal-legacy\"","(.d-modal-legacy)\"","document.execCommand(\"insertText\",!1,","this._textarea.setRangeText("]]]]

and then check off enable.

Otherwise some websites will be absolutely obnoxious.
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Re: What web browser do you use?

I use Links -g and either "offpunk" or cgmnlm  for Gemini with a proxy (gemini://gemi.dev) to read some news sites.
For the iceweasel-uxp building issue, did you try using clang to build it instead of gcc? It will use far less RAM. Also, you can enable, for instance, a compressed GB of RAM with ZRAM.
It woks well in my 2GB netbook:

doas modprobe zram 
doas zramctl --find --size 1024M 
doas mkswap /dev/zram0
doas swapon -p 9999 /dev/zram0

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Re: What web browser do you use?

That's a nice tipp, anthk.
Thanks, I will speak with the team about so we can perhaps update more easy. smile

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