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Topic: Microsoft failed to refresh driver certs of many many projects

If there is a whole silent revolt of free software from big tech. Whole projects being deleted off of github isnt too far away

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Re: Microsoft failed to refresh driver certs of many many projects

It is Github, so to await a fair treatment is like to await from a cow starting to fly: This is not going to happen anytime soon. To rely on Github was not working out before and is not working further now. But the issue goes further as it is the elementary signing-part for drivers, which should be taken into perspective: VeraCrypt, Wireguard and others can't do further updates on that behalf right now because of missing signing-methods for their software.

The maintainers have used a clear Microsoft-account for doing all the mentioned parts. And it is clearly forseeable, it was just a question of time. Using Microsoft-infrastructure for free and libre software? Good luck then.

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Re: Microsoft failed to refresh driver certs of many many projects

throgh wrote:

It is Github, so to await a fair treatment is like to await from a cow starting to fly: This is not going to happen anytime soon. To rely on Github was not working out before and is not working further now. But the issue goes further as it is the elementary signing-part for drivers, which should be taken into perspective: VeraCrypt, Wireguard and others can't do further updates on that behalf right now because of missing signing-methods for their software.

The maintainers have used a clear Microsoft-account for doing all the mentioned parts. And it is clearly forseeable, it was just a question of time. Using Microsoft-infrastructure for free and libre software? Good luck then.

The only reason I can think of microsoft would allow them to return is to feed their code to copilot probably.

Although its possible their dumb AI banned them due to glitches.

Microsoft is after all microslop since windows 11.

Although it was always bad on some level especially since windows 10.

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Re: Microsoft failed to refresh driver certs of many many projects

Please do not use slur-words and definitions like "microslop". This undermines any criticism and enables others just to do bad fingerpointing.
Thank you!

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Re: Microsoft failed to refresh driver certs of many many projects

throgh wrote:

Please do not use slur-words and definitions like "microslop". This undermines any criticism and enables others just to do bad fingerpointing.
Thank you!

Sorry, but Microsoft hasn't earned such respect. No one should show them such a  courtesy.

They are a truly horrible entity thus, I see no reason to not slur them.

Besides, you can go much worse slurs than that.

I don't even see that as a slur lol.

If you want slur, you need swear words and offensive provocative language.

slop is not a slur.

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Re: Microsoft failed to refresh driver certs of many many projects

zapper wrote:
throgh wrote:

Please do not use slur-words and definitions like "microslop". This undermines any criticism and enables others just to do bad fingerpointing.
Thank you!

Sorry, but Microsoft hasn't earned such respect. No one should show them such a  courtesy.

They are a truly horrible entity thus, I see no reason to not slur them.

Besides, you can go much worse slurs than that.

I don't even see that as a slur lol.

If you want slur, you need swear words and offensive provocative language.

slop is not a slur.

I doubt you understood or understand: I said that any kind of wrong using the original name - in that case "Microsoft" - enables the other side (if we talk about sides in that behalf) NOT to hear out any valid criticism. In fact this also enables other participants to join such a discussion and continue to get worked up, even stating something complete wrong. Alike "Hyperbola-community is stating slurs and false accusations". This is surely not correct, but the original valid criticism - you have clearly brought into - is not going anywhere then.

So using that word "slop" is making even more damage when combined with name-definitions: Is there anywhere data being artificial created throughout LLM / machine-learning worth called "valid" and "helpful" - outside of science-usage? Our whole global society is under a clear misguidance that way and it was before. But there should be no doubt that this is going even worse and using artificial wordings and misguiding names does not bring us anywhere, instead draws the whole debate into nowhere. The wording "slop" is therefore not helping when used as replacement for the company-name. As own word? Well, not the point here and as you have said. But I repeat again: Please use clear descriptions without letting out misguiding names, it will do better as the criticism is on-point and even though Microsoft (and others) will not want to hear it, it does not make the criticism invalid, vague or possible to be attacked then. Instead of "microslop" where is the issue that "Microsoft is supporting slop and endangers privacy, security and even democracy itself!"? I see no reasoning in building such slur-naming. And you have not stated "slop" but "microslop", so there is a clear difference within. smile

Human being in favor with clear principles and so also for freedom in soft- and hardware!

Certainly anyone who has the power to make you believe absurdities has the power to make you commit injustices: For a life of every being full with peace and kindness, including diversity and freedom. Capitalism is destroying our minds, the planet itself and the universe in the end!