Ah and a good "proof of concept" for double-standardization and the literally proprietary make-out for free software coming up through the back door here to find: http://blog.supertuxkart.net/2019/12/su … idate.html

I take it within here as quote:

After 1.1 is out, we plan on asking past STK contributors to dual-license the game under both the GPLv3 (the game's current license) and the MPL, to give the project more freedom to deal with some software repositories like Steam, while sticking to free software.

Okay, sharing on a proprietary platform - Steam is nothing else - will do more serious damage as the thinking is just shortened by now and people tend to have it just "quick and easy". There we have it: The modern thought in literally microblogged (buzzword-bingo) form! Yeah, on Steam you can get also "free, libre software" these days, so it must be also "free" in some way?

Come on, people: I know it is not easy for being believable but do you really want to make it so simple for companies entering even more safe space, taking away rights, freedom and security? Just for a shortened buyout and some bonus-points from people being lazy to manage their local installed software and operating-system? And there is no "get the users where they are" as in the end Linux is just even more filled up with false reasoning and features done without thinking completely throughout - PulseAudio is quite an astonishing example for this. Just as always just saying as the damage is even more clearly visible and getting more irreversible. And capitalism is incompatible with free, libre culture and software. So the major goal is to getting this done from within as the projects ruining themselves because of their quick statements, implementations and missed out stated prinicples, being true to a real believable way for a free culture in general! Where would we have been without support from companies? Perhaps not here discussing and showing failures of free, libre software, falling apart from within by enforcing false dependencies, bloatware and much more. But yeah, that's just a theory by now. Perhaps the Linux-kernel would have been not on its current point? Would be better having it where Hurd is, so some projects would have been never initiated - talking again from the bloatware-site - and we would have a complete modular userpace today. Yes, features like Bluetooth and others perhaps would have not even entered, no automatic mounting and Samba-shares from proprietary systems also. But would this really be bad and having therefore a really free, libre system from the community for the community?

But what should I write when reading throughout profiles on Diaspora for example (yes, can be done without any further login / account)? People talk about the "Pine Phone", with using an article from the platform "FOSSMint". Also on "FOSSMint": An article named Install popular Windows-Apps on Linux. Okay? Point given and understood? Or should I be clearer about it? What is an "app"? And why should I bothering to install proprietary software - not talking about a local prefix on Wine for classic games so far? Why is snap nowadays a "good" alternative for the distributions package-repository? And talking about snap: Since when represents Ubuntu the complete Linux-community? In fact this news-portal (FOSSMint) looks so full with false and easy-going articles that I'd better wait looking onto the "Pine Phone" itself. Being believable for free, libre soft- and hardware, not just only some "Linux" in another proprietary context.

One point about choice: It is correct as the usage of one platform is for the moment the individual choice. But going further: The more participants the more the "standardization" goes on and we've reached this long ago as it is now even common to use those platforms and indiviual decisions otherwise getting just even more complicated at all. In the end this becomes some enforced choice as you have no further possibilities. This principle is perfect demonstrated throughout systemd. At one point you've reached the climax where no choice is possible. And systemd was never about "choice", same with Steam or Spotify.

I meant a choice for yourself: Of course you can do as you like and choose otherwise. The problem starts when searching for people doing this with you together, for example "playing together". With this back in mind it'll get even more complicated as the comparison is not that easy as Steam and Spotiry are just different types of platforms. But the first one named is definitely getting a real problem for people with interests in games, free culture and libre operating-systems.

Don't know the exact tactics behind the usage of reCaptcha, but yes: Traning an AI-system behind is one thing and therefore Google pays also a lot as it seems, The question: Where does this lead to? And what about the moment having this possibilities within wrong hands? In normal ways I wouldn't dare to build up such black-white drawings, but when having this technology in the hands of literally wrong people, groups and parties it scares all out of me. And as always: With games you could catch the most.

You're right: Too much negativity is not good, for everything. It's just not good the way it is mostly and therefore I'm carrying out thoughts with the hope for a change. Hyperbola is such a change and just a nice place, same with other projects like Libreboot. And it's better having a small community instead the big one. But perhaps there will be changes? That's the point fighting for with arguments, even though we' re being viewed as "radicals".

When using a mobile device you should have look after the energy and therefore it is good running in different styles of usage. Using therefore the hibernation and the classic poweroff could be helpful to have a longer battery-life. In time most cycles are otherwise lost way too fast. So I have good experiences with this combination, running very good especially with light desktop-environments like icewm here.

Merry christmas to you, your friends and your loved ones, cynicfm!
So to everybody else reading this here, either member within the community or just an anonymous driveby visitor.

Just a personal view as it is part of this thread to criticizing the shortening and reducing complexity to fit on a small message: The best example of this is and stays Diaspora. An anti-social network being free and libre, using decentralization in a short-term to "share" postings and comments. While I personally like the basic ideas and I had a long time for about three years participating, I cannot be clear enough as of today: Those so-called free networks are just more of the same!

Yes, there are some interesting articles and discussions from time to time. But you can use this without any further login. And speaking from two sides now. Technically you are neither free nor independent when using Diaspora:

• Where is the server with all appliances hosted?

• What about other participants sharing content from proprietary services including everything else like trackers?

• What about other nodes where proprietary services are included?

But that's just a short list about the technical part, besides when not part of a decentralized network you can also create your own with pure and simplified HTML. There are enough projects out making this possible, also without further dependencies for example Ruby, Redis or even more to be installed. The issue with the installation itself? The more complex a system becomes the more failures can occur and Mastodon is another but good example, besides using also packages like nodejs.

And there is also the social component as Diaspora has a really long history with participants sharing just pure hatred, harassment or even more worse things and thoughts like antisemitic dogwhistles, racism, homophobe pictures, transphobe claims and sexism at the highest levels possible. The problem lies within the claim freedom of speech and believe me or not: You cannot discuss with those people. It is impossible and trying to create a safe space is the same there. Most time I've tried to discuss with people, writing thoughts like I do now here within this thread, also with pilosophical touch and not with the claim to know everything. But this was ignored and also with countering arguments against hatred. Ignoring hatred and harassment is even more worse as this a direct influence to the group and furthermore the global society outside as false information don't stay there in a closed bubble. This is carried outside like I've said before in the previous posting: An inclusive language is based on reflection and you cannot reach reflection with the habit of just being an "influencer" or participant of anti-social networks with the hunt for highscores and numbers instead. So those systems are more of the same false paradigm - they even copy this instead creating their own rules and a phrase like be excellent to each other won't stop demagogues, racists or sexists as they think being "excellent" - and many people looking away when hatred is posted. Not all, of course. But fighting this from within won't help! Either you fail completely, including depressive and misanthropic thoughts, or you stay also on some kind of hunting for highscores - I came to the conclusion not using those systems and services, wether being free, libre or not as they don't really help and instead make it even more worse. The only effect is: You can see hatred and harassment getting more intense and this is just helpful getting more into an own reflection creating an anti-thesis to "social influence", being not like this and questioning yourself - but this doesn't help the victims of harassment created also throughout those "services" as the proprietary ones live on with intense emotions like hate (disgusting but that's a big problem of our times).

Therefore just anti-social networks, either free or proprietary making no further difference in the end and yes I know this seems unfair and reducing from myself, but I'm doing this with a concrete background and knowledge. In the end you can also just use other systems when you want articles and information from portals all over the world, as there are news-aggregators available for example. And come on: Only because you like one article posted by a person you don't know makes the next posting with perhaps any antisemitic dogwhistling or picture not better, even more worse when you don't step up and ignore it by yourself as you do exactly in the moment without commenting and trying to use concrete counter arguments for the false claims. This would be then the first one and I assure you: There will be more after an amount of time. You want to make a difference - okay, you are reading here and reached out for this distribution and website, so I think you want: Create your own ones, real socializing does not need algorithms or in the wording "followers" and software can be helpful but not with being some copied paradigm because the people want to be free of criticism (that's not freedom of speech by the way) and the demagogues know this: That's the reasoning for them to multiply effects with usage of those free anti-social networks and pretending to be just another participant while not willing to discuss anything.

And another failure from the FSF making clear points of reasoning for free software and furthermore free culture, followed up here. The problem is again the shortening of information and the pictures itself: Computers are showed as some kind of risk, a danger. But those risks about missing freedom, security and privacy is showed coming just externally. Missing the point, FSF: Where is the responsibility of the people getting emancipated from dependencies? And why do you use such cheap and smear drawings? The black and monstrous like silhouette of a person, which waves and afterwards opens a door to the "computer"?

You can't be serious about this and declaring that as kind of information is a real bad joke. Missing completely the point: There is no need of creating and offering those pictures. You want more description? Another example shows up iconographic pictures of children with their heads being replaced through computer-monitors. Just showing the dangers being drawn and done externally is totally wrong and missing the point. Instead this also helps getting bogeyman images within the heads of people, while we should talk about reasonable responsibility instead shortened information and some kind of facts or better what should be facts coming up from an organization like you, dear FSF. Ah, did I mention the war-imagery for illustration of the phrasing Fight the digital fiefdom, support the FSF? Well, if this is the major point being we'll be better without you, FSF. Having clear principles like the FIVE freedoms, while you are even missed out clear failures in the near past and just keep talking about distributions removing some firmware-blobs. Where is your cryout about the information the developers from Hyperbola have given while asking about flaws and failures to be removed? The "little" details, yes I know: But that's the point, dear FSF. You play the wrong, bad game and even use some really false phrasing and wording instead showing clear principles about own responsibility. The flaws of some free, libre projects don't mind you? But I think I've got it: Better for having "others being responsible", crying out loud some kind of "war" and behind everything gets down even more faster than we can imagine because of accommodativeness. Do you recognize what some projects like Gnome or systemd are doing these days? Or is this just correct binding centralized services as single point of failure and risk for freedom, privacy and security itself? And copying instead of creating is the point being for free, libre decentralized alternatives? Ah, yes: Sharing those pictures and mentioned "war-mongering" imagery, exactly that is the problem: Shortened (and in this case: WRONG) information!

Well, I'm glad not using further stickers or so-called badges like these here. This phrasing and wording is dangerous at all, as it calls out the complete wrong side and externalize responsibility for hard- and software. Better being without the FSF and the FSFE, as I can and like to think of myself. You've failed clearly and there is much to repair regarding freedom, privacy and security, dear FSF! Nothing learned from history, neither in general nor specific of the last ten years on-going. But another good and fitting demonstration of the easy-going picture and imagery we human beings always use: OTHERS are responsible! And "we" fight the "good fight". Well? Surprise: That's NOT information, that's propaganda. While I have no problem being in some kind of "Don Quixote"-position - some windmills stop moving over time - I don't see any further point being in mobilization for such a flaw and propaganda: Neutral but fitting information, positive examples and many others are reasonable and help even being wthin such a story I've mentioned with the comparison to "Don Quixote". This is the contrary and makes me thinking about being better the FSF to disappear, instead creating something more individual at all and showing the concrete problems with clear principles. You can do better, we can do also for the upcoming new year 2020.

haha colorful world... Today world is mostly just grey, because of brick, roads, pavements, buildings etc. . And of course it's getting worse!!!
Id like to live on green planet!!!!

Sorry i don't know where to write this... I have managed to get gentoo installed yesterday night... It took me 5 hours to install, about 20 hours to compile kde-meta package, haha .
But now when i have it, i couldn't resist going back on hyperbola, because this distro is so secure... But i don't know why i have such a secure laptop and why i need such a secure laptop.... And also what can i use such a secure laptop for...

I been speaking with some people online, basically right now i use Hyperbola on Libreboot T500 and i use javascript blocker NoScript in Iceweasel_UXP. I am in love with this addon.
When i visit some websites it blocks youtube pictures and most of spying stuff out there!!!!!! Thank you god for creating for such a wonderful piece of software!!!
But anyways i told them what i have... And some people accused me of having something to hide on my laptop... Like gay porn or being a pedophile which is very insulting... I understand the right to privacy slowly disappears these days. But it seems like for people who usually use windows 10 machines, somebody like myself who is trying to stay secure is seriously a dodgy person... Or maybe they're jelaous??

Anyways i used to be gamer like guy but now thanks to all this libreboot thing and gnu as whole i started to feel interested in the security/privacy stuff... What can i learn about it and where????
So far i have read a book about cybersecurity/cybercrimes... I borrowed this book from UK library... But now i am in hometown they don't sell any books like this in book stores, cuz i asked...

I have downloaded some firefall called shorewall... I configured it, but basically it seems like having usb android smartphone tethering is either crap or i don't know how to configure it properly with shorewall... So i have downloaded some simple iptables firewall ufw 0.35-2.hyperbola3...
I also enabled tor with rc update add service and also i have configured iceweasel-UXP to use it.
But is tor really secure???? Why so many websites block me access whne i have tor enabled?? Is this true that if i turn the tor on on my laptop then US government actually flags me as suspect???
What's the point of having such a secure laptop??? What can i use it for??? How can i make it more secure without having to touch the hardware, but only software????

Thanks :-)

edited: from i lent this book in library to i borrowed this book from library, sorry for gramma mistakes

I don't understand the hype about Steam as well... Considering the owner of valve company that is behind steam is rich billionaire... 5b dollars??
Another funny thing is that in england there is store called CeX Entertainment that often sells used games on physical copies... There is this series of rpg games made by german company and it's called gothic... I basically bought Gothic Universe which is part 1, 2 with night of raven expansion and also gothic 3 newer part... I paid 3,50 pounds for this, and also came with nice box and of course on 2 cds and instruction manual. 3.50 pounds!!!!!
I go on Steam the same game part one is 7 pounds!!!!Second part 7 pounds!!!! I haven't checked 3rd part but it's probably the same... So it equals 21 pounds for 3 parts of game that come on proprietary platform and also completely digitalized, bound to your account with all your data!!! Whereas i paid only 3,50 and no data mined or steam account required!!!!

I used to play games on steam but of course, and mainly because of what i have noticed on playingonlinux website and forums, i quickly became enemy of this and i am strongly against this kind of digitalization of games... I have requested to delete my account... I didn't like the fact that me fresh user to linux goes on some website related to gaming on linux and there is just everybody hyped about steam all the time leaving me no choice but forcing me to create an account to become part of gamingonlinux community to share and enjoy the same stuff that they do!! But i know that it doesn't have anything to do with the open-source/libre. So it's kind of false. I haven't really enjoyed what they have... But it's what happens these days convenience > freedom.
And also worth noting that games on steam aren't worth anything because they often do sales so they reduce prices by like 75% or 90% for some period of time... You basically give your money away to the corporation for nothing... I think there is also something in privacy noticy, some law disclosure that you are not able to sue valve if something bad happens... You aren't able to resell the game later or borrow it to your friends...
Steam is definitely anti-freedom and anti-consumer, doesn't respect their customers, that's obvious fact. I heard that newest microsoft xbox goes similar direction, i heard they will be produced without blue-ray drive, only digital.
When you pay your cash to steam you think you purchase but in fact it's just a rental same as spotify (or newest great invention netflix) and other anti-freedom platforms.

Linux users are so hyped about steam porting games for linux, because i am pretty sure in their eyes open source libre games are crap, and graphics sucks... It's all about graphics... So they can download steam on their beloved linux machines and forget about things like open-source, libre, common goods because they focus on using 3rd party clients such as steam. Instead of caring about the linux user base, they get hooked to the third party platform run by some billionaire, and i think that destroys the whole idea of libre/open-source software... And developers who create games seem to be desperate to be on steam too!!! It's just sad!!

I am glad i finally found some place on internet where things like this are understandeable by others and i am not alone who share similar views

As with gentoo, you're right... I don't really want to use it so much, because it's never going to be as secure as hyperbola here... Like i said i grow tired of being linux user... That distro is the only choice for me these days for freedom.

There is even qubes os run by some polish people https://www.qubes-os.org/
It claims to be very secure and even edward snowden uses it!!! So i went on distrowatch.com and noticed it uses systemd as init system... So relating to what i have read about systemd so far, about it's privacy/security 'issues', is system like qubes os really so secure????

Being clear in principles also means: Being clear in the political way, for human rights and diversity including equal rights. And free software was always about politicial positions. But they were clear. Now with the on-going failure of many institutions including people and names there are demagogues coming up. I don't like it, but to mention that: You know about the political third position? The one telling being some kind of apolitical? Okay, with this mindset everything is possible and while being for "freedom" now this can be changed furthermore in the future as mind- and ruleset are "fluid". The demand for having FSF and GPL failing is coming up from the same people. The point being? Look into history: For every fast opened revolution there were participants searching for just one thing named "power". Should I demonstrate it?

Starting with: Just a little bit of "power", for some small amount of time when everything is "fluid" and after that this all will be clear.
And after that "amount of time": Oh okay, not cleared up? Let's take another period. But after that it will be ready. We / I just need MORE power and influence.

Guess what: The sentence is going to repeat for long, either being replaced by any other escalation or  nothing further. Perhaps I'm drawn into a just darker picture? Well, could be. But phrases like "Revolutions tend to eat their children!" don't come up from nowhere. To be clear enough: I don't think with this mindset anything can be created and instead this is just one further nail into the coffin. Let go FSF and four freedoms? And then what? Creating political power? Wow, and some jump directly on this train: Power won't end up good cause nobody should have it and instead it should be shared. If this is the future of "free, libre software" and "free culture": Please don't count on me. No power for anybody as I thought this should be instead the major issue we have to overcome and being clear onto principles like having freedom of choice, not becoming "social influencer" in some way. Teaching people to think on their own, fight for others and to show solidarity under different circumstances. That's the opposite of bearing and creating "power" and "influence". Instead getting away from this failed imagery, this nice hearing but bad clearing fairy-tale with "good ending" for most of history shows up the contrary. People died in fighting for equal rights for beings on earth, we are at a point we have to be clear about that. Or is this information overflow of the global network too much? You can search everytime for the consequences. Perhaps under just a complete other system with other rules this could work. But global politics are just dirty these days and making compromises end up also nowhere, just more of the same: systemd is not that kind of bad ... one sentence, and another following the one before because companies pretending being for "freedom" and the founded political movement is going to do what? Well, more of the same. Ending with (free) citation of Snake Plissken: The more things change, the more everything stays the same!

How fatal could it be? Very! With this concurrent situation of policy this is going to fail and why thinking to repeat what others took over the edge and into the ground of failure? The misbelief of "doing it better"? For the greater good? Oh, things with human rights work "so good" these days - no, even not near the actual situation. That's a daily fight and on every good news another bunch of bad is following. So there is much work to do and some of "us" are thinking about being a political movement? Good thought, later on, very much later on. Perhaps if "we" can make it in the next fifty years or better a hundred years without destroying everything or creating more suffering? Fight for equality today to fight for freedom, security and privacy in the future. Not with false, shortened claims today AND in the future more lies! Because what about projects like Hurd? Being honest: The microkernel is one good idea, but where is it now? And why is there no further statement from the FSF or the GNU-project itself while the "Linux-kernel" is in some way always claimed as "alternative"? That's good joke, isn't it? Projects like Hyperbola have problems with interest and donations, but hey let's build a political movement on something sounds like "freedom" - for now. I don't get that: And what about trademarks? The situation with licenses? The foundations behind many projects - Mozilla, Linux and many more? In some ways for "freedom", but with capitalistic approach. But the demagogues are in telling us more about it: Full political movement is a new buzzword, let go the old ones ... just another. I've said something similar but with a complete other mindset getting people completely independent in their rights for information and software. Not building another failed concept and I can't believe it having those readings again on some websites about "free, libre software". Clear up the projects and make the real freedom for a choice reality. After that you are more believable! A real compromise respecting all sides within is helpful and I don't want to destroy but question those shortening phrases and wordings as they do nothing helpful instead spreading more really bad consequences and regarding that making compromise just out of accommodativeness or some sort of operator convenience stays a problem, undermining basic principles.

In an utopian view we get it to overcome capitalism. Won't happen now and doubtful if humans can let go of greed and power. But better with all in instead!

The thing about facts is their approval and criticism onto capitalism is just open for everyone to explore. Staying critical about it is absolutely needed, but why exactly is it common sense to defend even companies like Microsoft or Apple within the spheres of "Open-Source" and also trying to bring up smear wordings and naming for "free software and culture" as being treated like some kind of religion? Do you recognize that people wait for some "Apple Stores" for days just to get their newest tecnology play? Do you recognize the major issue about trademarks, patents and licenses called as Copyright? Afterwards you call people being "religious" about technology just they don't want to treated as some kind of "products" and their data being searched, included and saved somewhere as they just use Software as a Service?

Well and the Linux Foundation tries again to jump onto that train: Come on, be some kind of pramgatic and you won't miss fun in the future. You can have everything as you want. Aha, sounds nice but is in fact another neoliberal lie instead a fact - not speaking here about the pricing for this "everything, everywhere and everytime". And it can be approved when companies proclaim turning human beings to brand ambassadors - just one search about that phrase and you'll get more information as I don't link onto such material here. Last but not least: People being onto "free, libre software and culture" are just excluded again with harsh names and false accusations, just not to be more into the argumentation. Thanks for all the fish?