jim wrote:Thanks for your opinion.
Can you write exactly what high energy consumption means? Regarding what?
If you have correct numbers? How much did D16 consume, how much did you have to pay per month, etc.
As for caring for the environment (if you want to talk about it)), at the moment the biggest problem is not PC users, but companies such as Coca-Cola, Tesla, gas, oil, chemical military companies THIS IS 99.9% of our pollution environment, and PC users all over the world are 0.01% maximum.
But the most important thing in this topic is the human factor; it is not the company that pollutes the planet, but the person or group of people who manages it.
You unplugged your D16 and at that time the tanker spilled thousands of liters of fuel oil into the sea, etc.
But this, as I understand it, is not the topic of this forum)
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Please let us not do this kind of argumentation: Meaning to raise some numbers we have heard or read just "somewhere on the internet" and using that for a convinient type of argumentation. Sure you do not mean it exactly that way. But to state: It did not mean anything for me what the tankers are doing in relation towards the D16 I had deactivated. It means surely for me what they are all doing, but "Coca Cola" and "Tesla" have also customers using their products, so they do not stand alone. We are all responsible and it is just too easy statng that "others are doing more bad".
So you see that your argumentation is kind single-sided going just in one direction. If I had made you angry or you feel provocated, that was not my intention. But please do not state just some numbers as I know for sure that it is not 0.01% maximum. Or do you not count ASICs for cryptocurrency-mining, streaming, cloud-services- and computing? They are done via PC (per defintion "Personal Computers"), so they all count in and this is not that kind of percentage number you have state. There will be an article coming about why Hyperbola is declining cryptocurrencies and there you can read for example more about some of those topics. And when people are buying literally obsolete hardware (ASICs) being in that moment useless when a new model is there, it is a bunch of e-waste done by intention. And that is surely a big issue, meaning the percentage of 0,01% is not fitting for sure.
Yes, in relation to others named: The number is less. But do we really want to name responsibilities? Then we need to make the same also for our position. That's what Hyperbola is about. So if you want to create a D16-based system I just want to state that you may be frustrated about the Nvidia-component depending for what purpose this computer should be. And it is my responsibility also to share my experiences: For server-implementation? Then I can give you alternatives. For desktop and gaming? Your T440p should be very good for that, including the energy-consumption. As I have said: I have used the D16-system as server (its intention) and terminal only. But the energy-consumption was nevertheless with 550W too high for me when this system should run longer, even 48hours around a week.
The comparison is just: Taking the consumption of a mobile computer running and tower PC or even midrange-server like the D16-boards are for that purpose. Those energy-consumption is way more different besides their noise also. So you should know that for sure. If you want to do that as I have done it also (https://forums.hyperbola.info/viewtopic.php?id=384), please make your experiences on your own. No problem, but in relation to our current times perhaps it is good to look more close together.
And I better add again: I surely care very much about tankers on the oceans and I care also about companies, corporations doing their nonsense around and polluting our environment. But I care also about all the people not caring about this as the named actors before can only do this because they are kept in the position to do that. For me speaking I take therefore conclusions for my responisbilities then when I look out to do something. As that is the only point of language and action. If I can motivate others? Cool. But again: If we use this kind of argumentation you have now used, this does not work.
Human being in favor with clear principles and so also for freedom in soft- and hardware!
Certainly anyone who has the power to make you believe absurdities has the power to make you commit injustices: For a life of every being full with peace and kindness, including diversity and freedom. Capitalism is destroying our minds, the planet itself and the universe in the end!